Bomber's Trek: TNG 1x02

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Discovery, go at throttle. [00:00:10] Speaker B: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. [00:00:27] Speaker A: What is going on out there? Welcome back to the Star Trek Warp top 10 podcast. What's going on, everyone? We are back with another supplemental episode today. Brian's Journey. Second episode, baby. Or if you're counting a different way, the third episode. We're gonna talk about Bomber's journey. So what's going on, Brian? [00:00:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we're still doing his bullshit, huh? [00:00:48] Speaker A: Still doing it. You're still here. We're gonna watch fucking trip, Watch some fucking Next Gen. The fucking. It's crazy. [00:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pumped up. No, well, you know, we got. We knocked the pilot out of the way and now or whatever there is the first two episodes and now we're ready for the third one here, you. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Know, ready for the third one. We are on the naked now. Interesting. This is, it's an interesting episode. Not just about among fans, among just, you know, it's interesting. Well, you know, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. So. Interesting indeed. Yeah. So, so we did our first pod. We're going to do these little supplemental pods for each episode that Brian watches. We went through encounter in Farpoint like he said. And today we're doing the Naked Now. But first, you know, check us out on Instagram and TikTok swarp10 and then you can give us an email at swarp10gmail.com let us know what's going on. What you think about these episodes? What do you think about Brian's opinion of his Next Gen Journey? So bummer. We're off and running now. Now it's time for the Naked Now. Let me ask you this, this is a serious question. Did you, did you find, after watching the pilot. So you. So this is the first. So you watched them twice now. So this is even more prescient. I want to ask you, so when you, when you got done watching the pilot for the second time, how pumped or not pumped at all were you to rewatch the second episode? [00:02:09] Speaker B: I was definitely interested in doing it or curious or looking forward to doing it because I liked the first episode and I was like, you know, I understood everything a lot better from when I watched it that one time because I was a little rock there with the, with the experience there. So I. So I was looking forward to watching this one because I was like, oh, I understood the other one so much more now. So I'm looking forward to understanding, understanding this one now. So I was, I was. And it may. And I'm looking forward to watching one that I haven't seen yet, you know, and watching it without you. Like, I've watched the both of those with you. So I'm looking forward to watching and seeing, you know, that experience of it, I guess. But I'm definitely, like I said, I'm looking forward to it. I'm pumped, you know, Awesome. [00:02:54] Speaker A: I think one of the reasons I'm asking is because I'm always curious to when. If and when you do get into the show big time, you fall for it. I'm always curious when that happens, you know, Mainly I'm curious in myself. You know, I'm fascinated when I get into TV shows, like what episode put me over the top or what, you know, I'm like, oh, fuck, I get it now. This is a good show. Like, I'm always curious how other people, my friends, especially when they do turn, take that turn, and maybe you never. Maybe you never will. Maybe you have already. Who knows? [00:03:20] Speaker B: I know you're right. I might not. Like. So when I was watching the Animated Series, I was looking forward to that every night, like, go Coming home. Or, you know, at nighttime I would watch one because those are so quick you can bang them out, you know. And this again, I've only watched the first couple there, so it's like I'm also, you know, I'll watch something else or it's like, you know, so if. During this season, if there might come that one episode I watched, I'm like, I gotta get to the next one now. You know what I mean? Like, when that happens, you know what episode it was that you let me know. [00:03:45] Speaker A: I'm very curious. Yeah, that's really cool. Honestly, for me. [00:03:49] Speaker B: I'll put it to you right, this. It's. It's not the naked now, but. But go ahead. [00:03:54] Speaker A: That's good. It was not for me either, so that's totally fine. I get it. That's funny. So let's talk about it. Yeah, let's get into the naked now. [00:04:02] Speaker B: So I thought you were gonna give me yours. I thought you're gonna give me yours, but all right, maybe not. All right, all right. [00:04:06] Speaker A: You know, it's funny with. With Next Gen, it was weird. Not only that, I. It was kind of love at first sight. Like. Like, there are definitely watershed episodes where I was like, all right. Wow, that was really fucking. Like. Like where no one has gone before for me was like a. Like a first season. Like, wow, that was. That was fun. But I don't remember being deterred by anything. I remember Just wanting to throw in the next episode. Like, it was almost like. Like I said, like I fell in love right away. Which is unusual, you know, I mean, for, you know, when you watch. When I watch Buffy, like, it was definitely in the middle of the second season when I was, like, totally hooked, you know, or, you know, Breaking Bad. Like. Like the first season didn't do it. Maybe. Maybe the very end of the first season when he blows up that at two goes, maybe that's what's like, oh, now I'm into it, you know, but something. But something like a show like Voyager. There was a specific episode in the first season that, you know, just completely sold me, even in one line, kind of. And I talked about it when I talked about the Voyager episode. So maybe, maybe, you know, if you. If you. You know what I'm talking about. But anyway, that's why I'm always curious. I'm always curious to do when my friends or when they, you know, first realize that, okay, this is. This is kind of cool. I'm latched onto this. So, yeah, yeah, definitely. Let me know. But believe me, I'll be asking you so you won't have to remember. Trust me. [00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:20] Speaker A: So let's do it, man. So, yeah, so the Naked Now. So this. This, you know, I want to. I want to mention, too, just. Just for perspective. Encounter at Farpoint aired on September 26, 1987. So I think it'd be interesting to put it in perspective. Anybody who's watching this and hasn't seen it or wasn't around in the 80s. So this episode, the Naked now, came out. It aired October 3, 1987. So overall impressions, what's going on with the Naked Now? Bomber? [00:05:46] Speaker B: Funny. I always thought, you know, these Star Trek shows were, like, earlier 80s. I didn't realize how late in the 80s they actually came out there. I didn't realize it was like 87, 88, whatever you want to say. But I. Yeah. So, you know. Well, I gotta say, this is. I. I found this very fascinating that this was like the third episode of this show and we're going to, you know, we're going on the Love Boat here. I mean, like, what are we doing here? Right? I mean, right now is this. I feel like there was. This was such a big difference from the first ep. You know, you're still kind of just establishing these people. You know what I mean? All of a sudden, we're. Now. It's like, were they trying to get romance in there to get more viewers or something? Did they do a Lot of this on the 1st. I know you didn't watch the original series back then, or, you know, but like. Or you be. You've seen it, though. It's like, you know, like. Like, this was like, you know, I don't know. I mean, not that it was like, you know, this is like Borderline late night USA here. What are we doing? I mean, you know, 100%. [00:06:34] Speaker A: And this is why this episode's kind of interesting. So you got two different things here. So you have an episode. This is sort of a sequel to an original series episode. So I don't remember or not that. [00:06:44] Speaker B: I loved about this. That was one that was in the fact that they referenced it here. That whole thing was fascinating. I thought that was cool. [00:06:49] Speaker A: You caught that. Yeah, so. So that's one part of it. They wanted to give the fans of the original series something to sort of, like, latch on to, I would imagine, right? [00:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:56] Speaker A: But the other thing is here, and a lot of people have pointed this out. I've read. I can't remember if we talked about it on the pod or if I just read from other. Other fans, but it was really a weird choice to take these. This is usually something you would do with established characters. You would change their personality overnight and you would. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Right. [00:07:12] Speaker A: You know, I mean, when you watch any other. Any other sitcoms, you know, you know, when Kramer and Jerry swap places, when Jerry's, you know, under the chicken lights and stuff. That's in, like, season eight. Like, it's only funny because you know what Kramer's like. So Jerry's doing the Kramer impression. Right. So it's interesting that they made the choice to have these. This weird sort of flip of their personalities in the second episode or whatever, the third episode. It's kind of bonkers to think, like, that they would make that choice. But, you know, I don't remember noticing anything weird about it when I was a kid. But at the same time, as a longtime TV viewer, it's a little weird. So it's a little weird. It's a weird vibe for this episode. [00:07:48] Speaker B: It was funny. Like you said, like, Picard gets all, like, giddy, like a fucking main, you know, very weird crusher there. But it was like, you know, like, that was interesting because he's out of anybody on the show. I've always known his way of being, like, that leader, stoic, you know, I don't know, person. So it was fun. [00:08:07] Speaker A: Shakespearean actor. Yeah. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But everyone else, I didn't know what the, you know, like. Like, it was just Hilarious. Like, the. The blonde girl goes in there and she gets all. All like. You know, she's wearing, like, a nice little. Like, I'm. We're. We're gonna. We're gonna get this going on with Data. You know, Data's like, oh, yeah, Data was, like, all into it. Like, you know, like, it was funny because I was. I. I'm picturing, like, C3PO when I see him, and I'm like, I can't picture him doing that, you know, But. But Data. Data goes in there. Like, you know, oh, yeah, I can. I can. I'm pretty functional. I can make this happen. And it made me laugh, too. Like, when they came back in the end and they were all, like, back to normal. And there's no way that blonde girl's not going. We're still doing this, I'll tell you that right now. Because it seemed. This guy seemed like he could get the job done. I mean, you know, what are we doing here? [00:08:50] Speaker A: It's so weird. I tell you what, even Picard's like, data, you're a robot. You're not affected by this. Like, did it explain why Data was acting weird? You know what I mean? They just kind of. [00:08:57] Speaker B: They just. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Unless I'm misremembering. But so. So it was. It was the epitome of silly. Like, I honestly don't think they get sillier than that in the run of the show. I mean, you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna sort of watch these along with you as you're. You know, but rewatch them, I should say. But it's very silly. I mean, it's a very silly episode. Now, that being said, some of the things that happened in this episode do resonate, like, oddly enough, over a couple seasons, you know, so. [00:09:24] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Really? [00:09:25] Speaker A: Well, for example, like, you know, like, yarn, Data bang, and like that. That comes back not in, like a, you know, yards pregnant with a robot baby kind of crap, but, like. [00:09:33] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:34] Speaker A: They do reference it enough, and it does become a part of Data's character, which is a really great choice anyway. [00:09:39] Speaker B: And you can tell Troy and. And by the way, we couldn't get the Troy scene like that. I mean, what are we doing here? You know? [00:09:47] Speaker A: I think they taught Denise Crosby, who played Tasha Yar, was like, quote unquote, the hot one. You know what I mean? I mean, she's very attractive, don't get me wrong, but I think they were going for that with her. You know, she was the. To a lesser extent, obviously. This. The 7 of 9. The Jerry Ryan of next gen. Are. [00:10:02] Speaker B: You saying it was who? [00:10:04] Speaker A: Denise Crosby, the blonde actress who played. [00:10:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:10:08] Speaker A: That's why they dolled her up instead of Troy. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Right. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, and she definitely was, you know, obviously that was hot as hell, too. But I'm saying I was just laughing with it because there's something sexy as hell about. I don't know if maybe it is just. I think it's funny how we talked about this when we did that episode on the pod with, like, hottest women. Whatever was like. Yeah, definitely. When you. When you watch them and knowing the character, because a lot of that is just like, you know, us looking at, like, a Sports Illustrated magazine or girls looking at a guy magazine with all firemen or something like that, where all you're looking at is the picture. And so you're basing it on that. Which I was doing, because I don't know any of these characters, you know, but it's like watching the show, like I said, I'm wondering if that. That Troy was even on my list because I just think the characters. So she and her acting style, everything. She's the character is kind of sexy to me right now. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I mean, we're just. [00:10:59] Speaker A: And the way she talks, like, so. So kind of. The way she talks is kind of. It's interesting. So she's British, actually. So part of the reason she talks the way she talks is because she's used, you know, if I take an American accent. [00:11:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker A: But that kind of makes it hotter. I don't know why I didn't know she was British, was watching the show, but for some reason, the way she was speaking the words turned me on as well, you know, as a kid, obviously, you know, but. [00:11:19] Speaker B: Right. [00:11:20] Speaker A: They're all attractive. Look, I mean, attractive people are on tv. It is what it is, you know? [00:11:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And it does. It does seem like that Horror and Riker are gonna have something going on that. That seems like that's there. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure you remember from the pilot that they, in the. [00:11:33] Speaker B: I know that was. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Intimated that they did have something in the past. So. Yeah, that's gonna be an ongoing story thread. Of course. [00:11:39] Speaker B: I thought about that. They did talk about that. [00:11:41] Speaker A: No, no, it's okay. Yeah, it's good. It's. It's astute to pick up on it anyway, even in just this episode, because it clearly, they're clearly going to go places with that. Yeah. [00:11:48] Speaker B: And. And then Jordy was the first one that had this. That kind of came down with this thing, right? Or something like that or. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Yeah, from what I remember. Yeah, he was the first one. He caught the guy coming out. He caught the frozen dude in the. In the shower. Right. So that. That touch is what, like, sort of infected? It was like the flu pretty much is how it spread. Right. If I remember correctly. [00:12:04] Speaker B: Yeah, Jordy. [00:12:06] Speaker A: Jordy came down with that first. I think it was. Was he. Was that when he was like, tasha, help me stop all these things that are flooded in my head. [00:12:14] Speaker B: I just want to, like, take the advisor off. [00:12:16] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right. A little character development there. I kind of like that they didn't use it just to be silly with Jordy. [00:12:22] Speaker B: And then I gotta say, this was the episode I was saying that this where, you know, I don't know if it was. They gave him too much to do or he was just too over the top of the. But Wesley, I was like. I wanted to kind of go in there and slap this kid. After a while, I was like, all right, all right. You know. Yeah, maybe because, you know, he was just taking over from Picard maybe. But I. That idea was kind of cool that he had the voice thing and kind of, like, was that, you know, taking over the ship in a way, like, that was kind of interesting. But I was like, I'm with you, though. He annoyed me a little bit on the show, but this might be as. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Annoying as he gets. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Well, good. That's good, Truly. [00:12:52] Speaker A: And I'm not saying that just to, like, not make you annoyed by him. I don't care. But, you know, I feel like they kind of. One fans are like, okay, this kid's gonna, you know, outwit the whole crew and fucking, you know, and then the best ship in the fleet, like, you know. And the other one is. I think the writing was kind of cheesy. I think the acting was a little over the top for Wil Wheaton. I like Will Wheaton. I'm not saying he's a bad actor, but I think. I think. I think it was a combination. It just didn't work at all in any form or fashion. So. I agree 100%. [00:13:18] Speaker B: And how about Will Wheaton's in that control room or whatever? And I love how fucking the people in there. All acting. They're all acting awful. [00:13:27] Speaker A: So cheesy. That was the. That dude. That dude was crazy. He's laughing hysterically, folks. You can't see it. But that, like, fucking. [00:13:36] Speaker B: Well, they had that one, like, Asian guy, right? Was he, you know. Yeah, was he. Is he had some dialogue. It wasn't like he was an ancillary guy. Is this, like his only episode? I mean, you know, he's in that. [00:13:46] Speaker A: I remember he might have been in the background here and there, like, you know. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:50] Speaker A: We seem to have, like, the first season, what was it was a revolving door of engineering actors then. They never really settled on a chief engineer. They never really settled on, you know, so, yeah, he might have been in the background, but who knows? [00:14:02] Speaker B: Now, he was goofy, but I liked him from the standpoint of him, like, he was doing things that weren't just what the other people were doing in the background, which was just like acting like fucking absolute idiots in the background. Like, you know, saying like, yeah, he was actually. I mean, he was acting goofy, but they were all just like. I don't know what they were doing in the back, but it was like, they look like extras that were just having a good time. Like, act like you're stones or something or whatever. I don't know. You know, ultimately, it's like, oh, this is supposed to be everybody when they feel intoxicated. But it's like, you know, so, I mean, I understand there are people that get intoxicated and they do, you know, now we're gonna, you know, draw late, text a girl or something like that. We're getting romantic. There are people, too, that like to start art and beat the. Out of each other. We didn't really get that side of the. The intoxicating. [00:14:43] Speaker A: Right. We didn't get. [00:14:45] Speaker B: We didn't get that whole thing, you. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Know, I guess that's. Humanity has evolved to the point where they don't really. [00:14:50] Speaker B: Oh, maybe, yeah, we don't do that. Yeah, but it was like, folks, you're. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Going to hear me. You're going to hear me apologize for, like, errors and nitpicks in these episodes. You're going to hear me come up with Trek solutions. So, like, my little world stays complete. But, yeah, my friends call me out on this shit all the time. Troy especially. He laughs at this shit all time. Is it. God, you were such an apologetic fucking dude for these. These shows. I'm like, you know, I'm like, you. [00:15:14] Speaker B: With the stuff that I love like that too, though. I'm so protective. I'm like, you. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Don't bash it. It's. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Fuck, you know, it's okay, you know, I know. I understand. I am. But I. [00:15:22] Speaker A: However, I can make it fit in my head, I'm Gonna make it fit. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but I. But this was like the Love Boat on Star Trek. Right? [00:15:29] Speaker A: I know, you said that. I love that reference. That's so true. All of a sudden everyone just horny as shit. All of a sudden everybody including robots. [00:15:36] Speaker B: And I don't know, androids. To be honest with you, that was so much a part of it that I actually forgot how they came about to the resolution of curing it. I mean, it wasn't. I remember all of a sudden Crusher was going around like stabbing people with this thing. Like, where did she get that. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:51] Speaker B: Thing from? [00:15:51] Speaker A: If I remember correctly, she. She used the logs from the original. Original show and then like synthesized some. Yeah. I don't remember. Like however they cured it. Like however Kirk's Enterprise cured it, I believe, like that's how we cured it and then. Yeah. Which is kind of cool because I was gonna say it's kind of cool. I like the idea that so they do spread around the research and the heroism, you know, on this show. I like that this time. Like Crusher kind of. Crusher. The Crushers were a tag team this year in this week. You know, they. She figured it out and he, you know, moved the ship out of the way of the asteroids. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Right. That's right. [00:16:27] Speaker A: I like. Crusher had a moment. [00:16:28] Speaker B: I forgot about that. Yeah, he, he, he did have a. And, and Data was doing that fast forward shit with the chips and all that whatever the hell. [00:16:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is clearly just like filming it and sped up, you know, I mean there's nothing like cheesy about it, but it works. [00:16:41] Speaker B: But they were just showing you what. That's like something that he could do there, you know, I mean. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Well, that was kind of cool. So even he was like, no, I'm not gonna get this done in time. So they just needed a few more seconds. So Wesley pushing the ship, you know, sort of back a little bit. Gave him a few more seconds now. Yeah. So you mean it is what. You know, it's still good sci fi, but it's, you know, like you said, you're sort of. You forgot about the plot because you think about how silly everybody's being, you know? [00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And I remember her going around stabbing people as. I just couldn't remember how they. How she came around to finding biggest and because it wasn't there something where all of them went or for them or four or five of them went down to the planet or the ship or whatever the fuck it was that that was contaminated or that was the beginning. [00:17:21] Speaker A: So that's how, right, how they got infected. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:25] Speaker B: That's what they went back down later on. But maybe I'm wrong about that then. Okay. [00:17:28] Speaker A: I don't think so. So they were transporting to the other ship, right? [00:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:31] Speaker A: So. [00:17:32] Speaker B: And they caught the frozen dude like you said, and then. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think they went back because that would have been like they were worried about contagion and then by the time it blew up, they were like, fuck. You know. But hey, look, I could be misremembering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, you know, it's, it's, it's. It's a silly episode. It's an odd choice for me to. It's not choice in my opinion that, you know, they decided to play with these personalities that weren't yet established. But you know, it is what it is. It's the naked now. So let me ask you, did you, did you have any, when you watch this, anything like technical wise, like any questions about that, like how you feel? The captains normally do this. Does the. Did that food disappear out of nowhere? Like if you have any, like along your journey, any technical questions that might make it easier on you, don't be afraid to shout him out. [00:18:20] Speaker B: I definitely will. I can't think of anything right here from the standpoint. So. So what? I know, I know not everything correlates to the show, but is there when I saw the hell did you just call it commanding? Engineering. Engineering. Is there, is there a Scotty on the show? [00:18:41] Speaker A: That's funny. So not yet. So that's, that's kind of the point I was making. So the female officer that Riker was talking to in the gold, she think was supposed to be. Yeah, she was supposed to be the chief engineer. [00:18:52] Speaker B: That's what I. [00:18:52] Speaker A: So she's in charge down there. [00:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So I was like, is she going to be the Scotty? But I guess that's not, that's not going to be. [00:18:59] Speaker A: No. So you'll see who becomes Scotty in the first episode. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Second season, maybe. Okay. Okay, gotcha. Gotcha. [00:19:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is weird because so like I said, they were finding their footing. Every other show after this and the original series all had a chief engineer. For some reason, the first season of Next gen just doesn't commit to it. But moving forward, like, you know. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. So like I said, you'll see like two or three actors playing the chief engineer at different points. I know one of the, one of the characters, he. Argyle, he. He's the chief engineer for like four or Five episodes. I want to say it's probably like two or three. But so. So for a while, you go, okay, that's all right. They're just not gonna focus on engineering, and we'll just go down there with character actors. And then, like I said, then they flip it in the second season, they decide to put one of our main characters down there. [00:19:44] Speaker B: So when you said art. When you said Argyle, first thing, I thought it was Die Hard. But. [00:19:52] Speaker A: Argyle's the limo driver, right? [00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:19:56] Speaker A: That's funny. Yeah. All right, here. Bruce Willis's voice saying that. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. No good. No, I don't. But I didn't have any other, like, technical, like, what is going on? Because this was basically right here on the ship. And we're going down to this other ship. There wasn't really any, like, planet we're going to, or there wasn't any. [00:20:17] Speaker A: You know, it's funny, you know, we should have. We should have bombers. Silliest moment is what we should have. Like, I know in Encounter with Far Point, you had, like, the. Yeah, wait, the far part was the. When Riker was re. Saucering the fucking saucer section, reiterating the ship. And then in this one, I'm guessing it was the Asian actor who was just going. He's going for it with the fucking drunk. [00:20:39] Speaker B: I was gonna say. I was gonna say that was. But you're right. That whole scene was. It was just silly. But to me, it was the whole thing with Data and. And. And Yar. And Yar, that was the best. Because she goes into the. I mean, she's all dressed up like, we're gonna get ready to go. And just the way he acted with her was like, you know, like a silly little teenager. You're going in like, yeah, we're gonna. I could do anything. I could fucking. You know what I mean? Like, dude, for someone who's pretty drunk. [00:21:06] Speaker A: She really did a great job on her hair. You know what I mean? She made it kind of perfect with a curl. You know, she got perfectly dolled up. Like she could really do makeup when she's fucking pissed drunk. That's great. [00:21:15] Speaker B: And so Tasha Yar is her character's name. Is that her name? [00:21:19] Speaker A: Correct? The actress's name is Denise Crosby. Yeah. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Okay, gotcha. [00:21:22] Speaker A: So that's Tasha Yarch, Chief. Chief. Chief security officer. Yeah. Like I said, you'll pick all that up as we go along. So. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:29] Speaker A: So hit me. What was. What would you say is the best part of the episode? [00:21:33] Speaker B: Like I said, for me, it was the. Oh, you know what I forgot to mention. We didn't even talk about this because I. You had mentioned this to me or some. I think when we first watched the episode, and I forgot. I'd forgotten all about it until I rewatched it was that they had one of the original series actors on this episode. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Oh, well, he was in the pilot, so DeForest, Kelly, Bones, when they cut to a scene where Data was welcoming Admiral on board, and there was that scene where him and Bones were just walking down the corridor. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Oh, that's what I'm remembering then. So that was in the first episode that was. [00:22:07] Speaker A: That was together. So totally, totally talk about it now. Wasn't that a great moment? [00:22:14] Speaker B: So it was so. So he's not in this episode, then? [00:22:17] Speaker A: No, no, he was just in the pilot. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Okay. Got you. Got you. Yeah, that was. That was. That was a great. That was cool that they did that at that whole. [00:22:24] Speaker A: It really was a very touching moment. You know, the ship. It's a different ship, but she's got the right name. You know, you treat her like a lady, she'll always bring you home. It's a very, very cool line. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Very classy. [00:22:34] Speaker A: I like that. [00:22:35] Speaker B: I'm sure the old fans had to be loving that. That whole idea. [00:22:39] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, it's sort of like a. Sort of like a. Like a. They're signing off on you doing another show. Like, Bones is like, I'm okay with it. Go for it. You know, I mean, it's kind of like. It's kind of. The original series said, you know, God, take it. You know, you guys. You guys got this. Now pass the baton. [00:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Which is. It also sets a precedent with Trek shows, at least through the. Through the 90s trek, when the pilot episode will have a character from the previous show on it. So that's kind of. [00:23:07] Speaker B: It'd be funny if they. Funny if they did it and they played the. Exactly. Played out that exact scene. You know what I mean? [00:23:15] Speaker A: What do you mean? [00:23:15] Speaker B: Like, they, like, whoever. Whoever the actor is that they have, you know? You know what I'm saying now? Right. Each time, no matter what the exact line, like, treat her like a lady, she'll always get you all. You know, like, they always say, we're on a station. [00:23:30] Speaker A: This isn't called the Enterprise. Like, Picard's walking down a corridor with Cisco and they just, you know, into the white light. You know, it's fucking hilarious. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that. [00:23:41] Speaker A: That's. That's good. So it sets that precedence. That's Cool. But, yeah, that happened in the pilot episode. But I'm glad you brought it up because that was a really cool moment. [00:23:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And I know, but for this one here, obviously, I just. When they. I guess that whole moment when they were talking about it, I forget. I feel like I forget who was at the screen when they were looking at the screen and realizing Data and Rikers, this was an old thing. Like, that whole thing was. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Riker was kind of like, oh, you know, you just jogged my memory. Like, search for a man taking a shower in his clothes. Like, that's what triggered his memory, where he related it to. He knew he had read somewhere what was going on. Yeah, okay, I gotcha. That. That's probably my favorite part of the episode, too. Like, I like that. I like that. Like, they did the fucking research and, you know, they would. They would have known about it if this was a. If this was a. An original Enterprise mission. You know, like, they study that shit in school, you know, I mean, so they would. They would know of all of Kirk's. Not all of them, but they would. They would know of a lot of Kirk's missions, you know, because, you know, the first Enterprise was so revered and it was, you know, 80 years prior and, you know, so, yes, I like that moment, too. It's a really cool moment. [00:24:43] Speaker B: And I do think that, you know, and also it was fun to see these people again. Not knowing them that well yet, but seeing them act a little kooky and all that kind of shit. Like, you know, that was fun. I mean, you know, see Patrick Stewart act like a fucking, you know, romantic SAP there and, you know, everybody in a different way, I would say, I. [00:25:05] Speaker A: Guess, you know, I'll say this for Patrick Stewart. Like, I think he's far and away the best actor on the show, and I think he's an incredible actor. But sometimes the choices he makes do boggle me. Like, he did a couple things in this episode. I don't know if it's like. If, like, his, like, stage training that sometimes has him sort of make these weird choices. I'll point him out as we go along. But in this episode, when Crusher was really pouring it on to him, like, coming on to him. Yeah, he was. Like, the way he said it was so bizarre. Like, it was just kind of, you know, he, like, did something with his throat. Like, I guess he thought that was kind of like. I mean. I mean, again, I don't know. I don't know what choice he was making. And, hey, he's Sir Patrick Stewart. So I'm not gonna say, you know, you act how you act, buddy. But I, I did think that was a little odd. You won't hear me criticize his acting that much. But that, that was one moment I got. That was weird. [00:25:53] Speaker B: I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah. That was. Yeah, it made it seem, I guess he was trying to. I'm, I'm with you there. I was trying to figure, like, is he saying he, it's not like he, Is he trying to let her know he wants to do it, but he can't do it right now? And he, you know. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Right. He's still trying to sound, like, sexy, but, like, but he was mad at. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Her because, you know, you know, I want to, but we can't. I don't know. It was. Yeah, I know what you mean. [00:26:17] Speaker A: That could be. That could be. It's. It's so ridiculous. And then. All right, so. Yeah, so. And then what? What? Taken away from this, what were you like? Oh, that was, that was cringy. That was, that was weird. [00:26:27] Speaker B: I, I, again, I think it was just the, There was something over the top E. About Wesley's character in this room. For me, I don't know what it was. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:26:39] Speaker B: And again. And again, some of the extras in the background for some of those scenes were a little. I mean, again, I. As much as I loved it, it was just like, you know, I don't know, what are we doing here? Like this. It looks. And it's funny because it's like, I didn't. I would never have expected to see anything like, again, knowing. Not initially not knowing much about slow. Maybe even seeing the movies, you never see anything kind of like this quirky, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, so to see it on the show was, Was very interesting. I feel like, you know, you know what's funny? [00:27:07] Speaker A: I will say this the closest, only because you just mentioned that now. The closest I could think of coming to that is when you'll be, you'll remember when you see First Contact, so Star. First Contact. There is some moments kind of like that when they're doing the B story where they're on the planet with Zephyrum. Cochran, I know you don't remember a lot of this, but when we get the First Contact, it's such, It's a shock. That movie works so well because one half of the movie is this serious sci fi threat and some really cool shit. And action. And the B story is. It's pretty much all comic relief until they get to the climax. So it's weird how that worked, but I am reminded of, you know, Troy getting so Council. Troy gets drunk in the movie as well. And it's kind of like, it's kind of the same vibe. They pull it off a little bit better. But anyway, anyway, it just reminded me of that when you said that, so. But I get it. I get, I, I get how that, that's, you know, that that's like, wow, this is. They're really going for this weird, quirky sort of feel, you know, so it's a silly episode. [00:28:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no, yeah. But it's fun. It's cool. It was, it was fun. [00:28:10] Speaker A: I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear it. So if you had to put a, put a rating on this episode, what would it be? [00:28:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So, you know, maybe because I watched this back to back with the other one, I put it like that, I'm like. I guess I was like, you know, overall it was like the threat was not really much of a. It wasn't like there was gigantic enemy that had a fight or anything like that. It was more like this whole disease thing or whatever, you know. But it did kill everyone on the other ship or whatever, right? I mean, what are we doing here? [00:28:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I hear what you're saying. It's clearly a threat, but it's not, it's not like a stereotypical sci fi threat. Right. It's. Why, I guess it is. But I would just say, yeah, it's not. The Klingons are gonna destroy us. This alien on the planet's gonna make us slaves. Like, it's just like, it's like a biological weapon. It's just like a, just like a disease. [00:28:58] Speaker B: But you know what? It was fun. As weird as it was, it was, it was, it was a fun time. So I'm gonna say. I'm gonna be lame here and say the same. I'm going to go 6.5 on this. [00:29:09] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's not lame. That's not lame. Hey, man, this, this is your rating. And we'll see, we'll see how the, how they, how they even out. I think it's interesting that, that, you know, you think it's, it's, it's, you know, similar to the pilot as far as, you know, quality. I will say that the fans agree with you as well. So the first, the pilot got 6.9. This didn't drop much. This is a 6.5. This is exactly what you gave it. So there you go. You are in Lockstep with all the Trek fans on IMDb, you got yourself a 6.5 on there, which is not bad, you know, in my opinion. What do you got? [00:29:41] Speaker B: Who's naked now, bitch? I was gonna say who's naked now, bitch? [00:29:45] Speaker A: Who naked? The naked. I think anything six and up is, in my opinion, when I'm reading IMDb, anything that's rated six or higher, for the most part, is at least watchable. I think. I think when you get below six, you start talking about, you know, not, not good, not, not good episodes, in my opinion. [00:30:03] Speaker B: You know, so you said less than 6.6. Is that what you said was 6. [00:30:06] Speaker A: Point, no less than 6.0. Like, I'm thinking, you know, if episode rated 6 or 6.1, I think it's worth watching. But, you know, you start getting in the 5.5.8, you know, 5.1s. It's. It takes a lot for someone to rate an episode that low. So to silly. There's something going on there. And I will say kudos to everyone out there who was on IMDb. I think the ratings are pretty damn accurate. I agree with most of the ratings in most of my shows. When I'm looking through IMDb, I'm looking at Archer or West Wing or fucking anything, and I'm like, all right, right on. That's. That's exactly. That's about what I would rate it to. This episode is definitely worse. So I kind of like. I kind of like. The law of averages seems to kind of take over that. You know, there's so many people rating it that I think for the most part, the episode's gonna get its due. [00:30:50] Speaker B: And I feel like I was gonna say I was laughing too, thinking about, like, it was if there was another cure for this thing. Like, you know, if you. I don't know if it was like the person. [00:30:59] Speaker A: It could have just eaten orange and it would have been fine, you know. [00:31:02] Speaker B: No, but, you know, like, you see that, like, and I forget like, how it worked out from the standpoint of like, was it the first person you saw? You're like, oh, I'm going to fucking. You know, we're going to get it on right here. Or is it like. Or and it, like if you got that person in the room and once they get. Maybe because I heard the title Naked now, maybe think of this. You get them in the room, they get naked, and then they're like, oh, wow, okay, I'm better now. You know, if you're not really into. [00:31:23] Speaker A: It, you know, like, well, the first, the original series episode with this disease was called the Naked Time. So next gen calling it the Naked now was obviously, you know, the word naked plays in really well. It kind of did in the original series too. But it was really just a continuation of the. It's sort of a, you know, a sequel to that. To that episode of the original series, you know. [00:31:46] Speaker B: That was good. [00:31:47] Speaker A: So, yeah, so pretty good. 6.5. I like it. So you're off and running, baby. I'm very excited, you know, I can't wait to get with you on the last. I'm sorry. Code of Honor. Oh, boy. Okay. Code of Honor is next. So, you know, you'll watch that episode and we'll fucking talk about it. I'll rewatch it at some point in the next few days and whenever you're ready to talk about it, we'll talk about it. [00:32:08] Speaker B: I know that this is not a high rated one. I know that. So I'm looking forward to it. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what I want to refrain from? I think you should not look at IMDb ratings. I don't know if you do or not. [00:32:17] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:32:17] Speaker A: I think you should not do that. But I'm going to refrain from like passing judgment on future episodes. I want you to go in as fresh as possible and just enjoy it the way everyone else did. So. Yeah, makes sense to me. Listen, check out Bomber and I on Instagram and TikTok at swarp10. Or you can email us at sdwarp10gmail.com Let us know what's going on, what you think of this little supplemental pod that we got going on with Brian here. Brian, any final thoughts? [00:32:44] Speaker B: My final thoughts is, you know, it was a fun episode with the Naked now. And I'm still not cured from my first sighting of Counselor Troy, so, you know, I'm ready to roll. Counselor, if you're out there, you know, I mean, what are we doing here? [00:32:56] Speaker A: Marina, Certus, you are on notice. Brian's coming for you. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Got a text from my wife. I don't know. What does divorce mean? Does that mean something? Anyway, no. It's having a lot of fun. Looking forward to the next one. And if it's. We'll see how it is. Will I get to episode five? I might not. And we'll see what happens. [00:33:17] Speaker A: Your call. Let's see what happens. We'll talk to everybody later. [00:33:21] Speaker B: We'll see you on a bridge.