Animated Series Episodes

Episode 33 • August 23, 2024 • 01:20:22
Animated Series Episodes
Star Trek: Warp (Top) 10
Animated Series Episodes

Aug 23 2024 | 01:20:22

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Brian and Phil get Looney with Trek Toons and break down their top ten Animated Series eps! So break out your anvil, umbrella, and catapult. It's about to get Trek Toony!

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[00:00:03] Speaker A: Discovery. Going throttle up ten. 987-65-4321 what is up, Trek fans? Welcome back to the Star Trek Warp top ten podcast. We are back. Coming at you at warp fucking speed, baby. What's going on? I am your co host, Phil Rizzo, and I'm joined by my other co host, Brian Parks. What's going on, buddy? [00:00:41] Speaker B: Hey, listen, I am on the fucking bridge and I am ready to attack. I mean, I got a list today, baby. That's how we do. Whoo. [00:00:48] Speaker A: You got a list? You're doing a Star Trek top ten pod. It's not parodies, it's not jokes. It's not something you could just kind of. You had to watch these episodes in order to come up with this list. [00:00:58] Speaker B: I did. And I gotta tell you, it was a lot of fun, pumped up. I know we've been talking about this for a while. I can't wait to dive in, tell. [00:01:05] Speaker A: Them what we're doing. What's our top ten list today? [00:01:08] Speaker B: Well, we got the Star Trek. Star Trek the animated series. Now, I know this is probably something that might put a lot of people to sleep, even Star Trek fans. I know this is not a very high rated show, right, compared to a lot of the other ones, but. But maybe there are people that do love it. Like. Like, I gotta be honest with you. I enjoyed the hell out of it, so I'll put that out there. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Nice. You know, I did too. You know, I. The reason this took so long to put together that Brian watched this show, like, months ago, and he was. Got really into it. He loves cartoons. We'll get to that. We'll talk about that. But I, um. I watched it kind of, you know, it was like a blur when I watched the original series, but then when I rewatched it, because I wanted to have a good conversation here with Brian, when I rewatched it, I enjoyed it, like, a lot more. Not that I didn't like it the first time, but it was really good the second time. A lot of fun. But you. You watched it, you embraced it, and you kind of loved it off the bat, right? What did you like about it? [00:02:00] Speaker B: Well, I think we had mentioned this in one of the other pods there, but just the idea of, you know, again, I think it was like our era of growing up was like the peak of Saturday morning cartoons and all that kind of stuff. And I, you know, I still, to this day, will watch a lot of the old time. I loved that whole thing. You get the whole bowl of cereal. We all know this. We all have the same image in our heads of those Saturday mornings. And. And this, this. When you mentioned this thing to me at one point, I remember look. Looked up the, you know, just to see what it looked like. And just the images of it kind of reminded me of, like, an old, like, super friends or something like that. You know, it had, like, an old Hanna Barbera, like, superhero look to it. I was like, this looks like something I could kind of get into. And it kind of reminded me of that, you know, like, instead of the whole of justice. We're in the fucking enterprise. We're going on an adventure. Where are we going? I don't know. Like it was. And again, not knowing much of the Star Trek universe, you. You. I know enough to know. I know Spock and Kirk, obviously, and, you know, I know we're beaming somewhere and we're fucking flying somewhere, and. But I know that you probably, obviously, anybody else would pick up a lot more other shit. And I think. I'm sure we'll get into this. A lot of these episodes were based on real episodes of the show or with characters from. From the actual show that I. I know, and I forget me, I know we're getting into that, too. But I. Even on the bridge part of it, there was a couple of characters here that were never involved in the original show. Right? I mean, like, they had that fucking lion looking woman, and they had that giraffe looking like, you almost look like boss fuck. Fucked a giraffe or something. [00:03:28] Speaker A: That one guy, boss, a bounty hunter giraffe. That's kind of what he looks like. I'm with you, man. Yeah, the lioness was. Yeah, like rest, I think, was her name. But, you know, I forget. I think she's a cation. She's a species Caishian. I only know that from lower decks. And then. Yeah, and then the other, you know, they had that cool little alien at the. At the helm there. Maybe not the helm, whatever that was on the enterprise d. The helm is on that side, so I don't know what's going on there, but, yeah, no, that was cool. That's like, new characters. Like you said, they brought back some. Some old characters from the original series, and, you know, the actors reprise their roles just like the main cast did. Yeah, it was really fun. And like you said, that nostalgia, you know, that kind of animation Saturday morning, like you said, super friends or, you know, just like you said, the Hanna Barbera style of animation definitely reminds us of that. You know, that seventies, early eighties sort of feel like there's no better. You know, like, we had it made, man, in the. In the eighties, like the Saturday morning, it's just like you said, a bull cereal in your pajamas, hair all fucking messed up. You just. Nothing to do for 4 hours except watch tv, watch the commercials, eat way too much sugar cereal, and just fucking zone out. [00:04:39] Speaker B: I'll tell you what, me and my brother used to get lucky charms. Like, we'd had that in the house. We would fucking empty. We emptied that whole box into a bowl, and we picked out all the marshmallows and would just sit there and fucking eat the marshmallows watching the show. But. But you are, you were locked in, like, and the best thing, too was, I know now it's like, you know, everything's on, on the streaming thing, so you can kind of go after anything you wanted to. But, like, for us, like, you got up, it was like 07:00 or 08:00 in the morning and whatever show, I forget what the lineups were. You know, at one point, you probably, probably had a memorized. It was like, you know, if there was nothing on channel two, you would go to channel four or five or seven. Like, there was always one of them would have a show that you were gonna like, I'm locked into this right now. And it sucked. When there was two, you wanted to watch that were up against each other, and you had a pitch that suck. But, uh, I know, you know, the. [00:05:24] Speaker A: Heyday since we're talking, the heyday, from what I remember. And by the way, if you got up at, like, 530 in the morning, they were already playing cartoons at 532. [00:05:30] Speaker B: Oh def. [00:05:31] Speaker A: Like, like mighty Mouse would be on. Or like, yeah, yeah. And this was good luck. If you heard of this, the minute mount, courageous cat, minute mouse. That's one that no one's ever heard of. But I love that. [00:05:42] Speaker B: I have heard of it, but I don't think I've ever seen that. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, that was on Penelope pit stop. Like, shit. Like, that was on, like, really early. But then, like you said, yeah, 08:00 would be like, you know, you know, smurfs or gummy bears or. Yeah, muppet babies at 09:00 and dungeons and dragons at 930, you know, and then, of course, Looney tunes at 11:00. You know, that was the culmination, maybe. [00:06:02] Speaker B: That was like the. It was like watching the fireworks. And here's the grand finale. You know, like, it was. [00:06:07] Speaker A: It was all just a lead up to fucking 11:00 on, I think it was ABC. I want to say where they played the Looney Tunes. [00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Overtures, start, the lights, all that, all that shit. [00:06:17] Speaker A: That's where it came from. Right, right. I. [00:06:22] Speaker B: And I was gonna say, too, another thing is that I do love about this show is that they, like you said, too, they had, that they have the actual actors doing the voice. Like, I think, like I said, I think I mentioned this before too. Like I got, I can't stop bringing up dukes down here, but they had a Hanna Barbera cartoon. And, you know, Tom Wolfat, John Schneider, Denver pile. They all did. There were so many people that the voices for that. And to be honest, you even, there was even a Hanna Barbera. This might be in the sixties Abbott and Costello cartoon. And Luke Costello was dead, but Bud Abbott did his own voice for those cartoons. It was crazy. That really. [00:06:53] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, and so, like, here you have Spock and, you know, Leonard. I mean, Leonard and who else? Shatner and the other guy, the doctor. Right. I mean, they're all. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. DeForest, Kelly did bones. They had Walter, I'm not Walter Cannon. He was the only one who didn't do it, actually. George Takei was, you know, Sulu and James Doohan was Scotty. And they had Michelle Nichols as Ohura. It was great. And like you said, you know, when they brought back some of these recurring characters, like, we'll talk about, you know, they did the actual voices too. That was great. Kind of remind me, too, of like Scooby Doo, right? When they have, like the guest actors on there. Like, it was really Shelly Duncan. It was really the Harlem Globetrotters, you know what I mean? It was really all these actors, you know, the same type animation. You know, it's kind of like a precursor to like an archer type animation, too. Like Archer has the same type sort of simple, sort of cost effective animation. It still looked great. [00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:44] Speaker A: You know, you could tell they definitely were saving some money on the show. And I'm sure, I'm sure we'll get to that as well, you know. But, yeah, I loved it too, you know, for a lot of the similar reasons that you're talking about, for sure. [00:07:56] Speaker B: And I think the company that made it, I think we went over this too, at one point. It was called filmation, which used to do the he man cartoons, which I was obsessed with as a kid. We all messed. They did the Ghostbusters. [00:08:06] Speaker A: We were talking about that. That's right. Yeah. The Ghostbusters versus all that. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But, but I gotta be honest. You like to me, it was. The colors were bright. I love the old school drawings and all that. Like, I mean, there was a couple of times where you watched it, like, for some reason, I think I might have mentioned this. I love. They would do, like, a blimp view of the bridge, and whenever they did that, it looked like all the characters were dead. Like, no one was really animated there. Like, what the fuck are we doing here? You know? But, uh, like I said, for what it was, I enjoy. I have to say, I really enjoyed it, and I definitely want to watch them again. It's not, you know, if I might even watch this again before I watch anything else. I really enjoyed it. It was the short, you know, it was a short episodes, you know, I. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Mean, maybe this will be your thing. Maybe you'll be one of the only people I know whose favorite Star Trek show is the animated series. You know, you never know right now. For everybody, maybe, but you're gonna watch fucking lower decks, and it's gonna blow you away. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Trust me, I'm looking forward to that. And. But I also do want to get into next gen. I. Like I said, I know we watched the pilot there, and I'm a kind of slow call because I'm watching, like, five different things right now, but I will get to next gen. Brian's had. [00:09:15] Speaker A: A busy month, folks. Brian got married this month. All right. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yes, I was gonna. I meant to mention that earlier. Yes. Married man now. Yes. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Congratulations, buddy. That's right. So, no, no, that's a good excuse for not continuing your next gen journey. So we'll get back to that good reason. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Yes, yes, we. We will. But, yeah, no, Phil was one of the groomsmen there, and we had a good time, right? [00:09:38] Speaker A: Oh, we had a blast. That was so much fun. [00:09:40] Speaker B: And the best thing about the wedding was there was not one mention of Star Trek, so I made everybody really enjoyed themselves. [00:09:48] Speaker A: You know, it's funny, unlike, you know, our good buddy troy. So I went to his son's bar mitzvah back in December. I don't even told you this. Or not. And, you know, I don't know if you know how, like, a bar mitzvah works or sweet 16 works, but, like, at some point, the child lets you. You know, he picks people in his life to come up and, like, light a candle and. Or, you know, and it's like a select, you know, whoever it is, like, eight people or nine people. So much to my surprise, I was delighted that when Troy's son Jack asked me to come up and light one of the candles. I was really honored, and I was so honored, and, you know, sort of taken aback, that I didn't realize that Troy had him play the theme to picard the flute over. Over the speaker. When I was walking up there, I did not even notice. And of course, you know, his son is rolling his eyes at both of us. But I. That was freaking awesome. So a little. Little trick got involved in the bar mitzvah if it didn't get involved in the wedding. Just. Just. [00:10:41] Speaker B: It's funny, too, because when we had talked to the dj, you know, we were going over different things, and, you know, they're like, you know, what. What, um. What music do you want to come out to when you introduce the reception? What do you want the groomsmen to come out to? Like, I got the choose for that, and she's choosing for the win. So I said I was torn between. I was going to do the throne room from Star wars, which we had talked about. You had been to a wedding, or Steve Schaefer, who was it that had that. [00:11:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, Steve did that one, I think. [00:11:08] Speaker B: And I was also gonna use, which I wound up using, was the magnificent seven, because I'm obsessed with that movie and the music's great, and, you know, but even though I knew I had a couple of more that I think I had eight guys, or I didn't have seven. But anyway, at one point, the DJ was like, you know, we could do, you know, individual songs, but I just think it would take a lot of time, and it would only be like, a second of each song, you know? And while he was doing that, in my head, I'm like, damn it. I was like, I would have definitely picked some kind of Star Trek thing for you when you came out. You know, like, dude, either that or. [00:11:39] Speaker A: Freaking temple of doom. The motor Dom. Sort of. Could you imagine it? [00:11:44] Speaker B: I know Alison would be like, no, we're not playing that. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah, she'd be. Well, you're never coming over again, and we're not getting married. Oh, my God. That would have been fucking too much. [00:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:56] Speaker A: So got a little housekeeping for you from last time. So we did our courtroom style episodes last time. Okay. Just a little bit of housekeeping, and both of them are sort of fuck ups on my part. So let's talk about. [00:12:05] Speaker B: It was a solo pod, so it. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Wasn'T a solo pod. Yeah. So I was referring to the bombshell, right? I referenced the always sunny episode where Mac is saying, you need a bombshell in a courtroom. And I'm talking about the bombshell from an episode called the measure of a man, where Riker removes Data's arm, which was a bombshell, but not the bombshell because I really should have pointed out that when he actually shut data off for effect, that was the bombshell. So anyone who was watching that, listen to our episode and being like, dude, that's. That's taking his arm off. That's fucking nothing. He shut the fucker off. So that was the real bombshell. And I was listening. I was like, oh, I totally missed. Missed the mark on that one. So. Had to say something about it. As far as I know, though, that's the only. The only housekeeping I got, man. Well, that's the last episode. [00:13:00] Speaker B: That's a good banging average. No, no, no. I. Other than the fact that the ending got cut off and Luke had to come in and save the day, it was fine. [00:13:07] Speaker A: You know, folks, I appreciate, I know I mentioned something in the pod itself, but we, we had some technical difficulties last time. We're trying to get them, you know, straightened out. Hopefully we don't have to do that again. Have Luke come in and, you know, rightfully tear us apart for being complete frickin Luddites that we are. [00:13:23] Speaker B: It was good to hear his voice, though, I will tell you that. [00:13:25] Speaker A: It was, you know, I told him, folks, I'm going to tease a little episode coming up. We are going to revisit the next generation season eight tweets. We're going to pick another ten coming up. And I told Luke, get your freaking ten ready, dude, because you're getting back on this bitch. So the three of us can do a pod, and Luke and I'll have our season eight tweets and we'll. We'll laugh our asses off like we did the first time. If you missed that, go back to was like, episode. Like, I want to say four of the pod. So much fun. So. Those are so much fun. Yes. We spent most of the pod laughing, but I feel like it was infectious. Give it a shot. A lot of fun. [00:13:59] Speaker B: It was. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Anyway, listen to it. Right? Yeah. There you go. That was before you started doing the hosting duties, so. Yeah. So today we got the animated series, top ten episodes from the animated series. This is going to be fun. I say we just dive in. Let's talk about it. I did not parrot sketch anything, did you? [00:14:17] Speaker B: I did not. But I was going to say that I looked at some other, like, online lists of what are the top five, top ten top, or, you know, whatever people have on the list and there was one episode that was kind of consistently at the top and I know it's going to be high on your list and I know it's going to be high on mine. I'm curious to see where that lands. No, I'm not in parrot sketch. I, um, I was gonna say I got so into it ranking that I actually did rank all of them and I'm curious to see where. I'm just curious see what my dead last pick is and if it's in your list, it's gonna be hilarious. But yeah, I'm, I gotta be honest, it was tight. I could have put like my top 13 maybe in the top ten, but it was, it was tough to cut one of them out and, you know, but, but it was tough list because I really, like I said, I really enjoyed the whole thing. So we'll, we'll see what happens here. [00:15:01] Speaker A: No, me too. And the benefit of rewatching it, I was like you said, I was ranking as I went along, so I watched the first one that was number one and then I went to second. I flip flopped. You know, I mean, so as I went along, so I got no honorable mentions. I got nothing. I just got my solid ten and that's if you have any honorable mentions. [00:15:19] Speaker B: I have an honorable mention, but I'm gonna save it because I want to see where your list lands. And I will mention it before I mention my number one because I did the same thing. I, but I didn't rewatch, that's the thing. But as I knew I was watching it and gonna do the pod, so I was listing it as I did the same thing once first, then number two came in. I'm like, oh no. You know, so. Yeah, well, uh, we'll see what happens there. But yeah, I'm uh, I'm pumped up and ready to go. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Me too. Well, listen, baby, this is yours. Why don't you kick it off with your number ten? Man, I can't wait to hear it. Let's talk about it. [00:15:45] Speaker B: All right, well, I'm sure we're going to have a few the same here. You know, I would say we probably have half the same, but maybe not, you know, maybe, maybe less than that. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Couple of mine are pretty low. Go ahead and. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Alright, so my number ten is now I need you to help me out with reading the descriptions over there, if you don't mind. But mine is the pirates. [00:16:03] Speaker A: Funny. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:16:05] Speaker A: You kidding? [00:16:07] Speaker B: What? [00:16:09] Speaker A: The Pirates of Orion? [00:16:10] Speaker B: The Pirates of Orion is my number ten. [00:16:12] Speaker A: That's my fucking number ten. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Really nice. [00:16:16] Speaker A: All right. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Good. Good start. [00:16:18] Speaker A: So I can read the description now, obviously, I put descriptions out for. For mine, but when you name yours, I'll read the description as well. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:25] Speaker A: So the Pirates of Orion, to help bomb her out, a 6.5 on IMDb. Spock contracts a fatal disease, and the medicine required for his cure is stolen by Orion pirates. Take it away, baby. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Yeah. No, you know, I would say for me, again, not having seen the original show, watching this show, it was fun to see all the different things that they would do with the show. So, like, especially to the characters, like, and Spock is the coolest character, so to see him contract this disease, I thought was an awesome idea. Now we have now, and now we got to get him out of this whole thing. And I thought the pirates were kind of a cool characters, but now, were they in the original show, or is this. [00:17:09] Speaker A: They were there in a lot of the shows, actually. [00:17:10] Speaker B: Oh, really? Oh, wow. Okay. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, so they. You know, the orions, they're the greenhouse species. Like a green species. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. With the blue mask, was that just a mask on their face there, or is it. [00:17:24] Speaker A: I guess so. Maybe for the. Yeah, so they looked a little different in the animated series than they did that. I know. I know them primarily from Deep Space Nine. Discovery and strange new worlds is where I primarily know them from. They weren't in Voyager, as far as I could tell, and they weren't in next gen, as far as I can tell, but I. They were in the original series and the animated series, so. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:44] Speaker A: That's interesting. Yeah, I noticed they pronounced them Orion's. Did you notice that? [00:17:50] Speaker B: No, I did not know. Really? [00:17:52] Speaker A: Orions. Orion pirates. Which was strange, because in every other iteration of Star Trek, there. Orion pirates. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Orion. Yeah, that's. That's how I was gonna pronounce it, but, um. Yeah, no, I. I mean, I'm trying to think what else I got there. I liked it a lot, you know? What did you think? I mean, you know. [00:18:09] Speaker A: Well, tell you what. Because they're only, like, 23 minutes episodes, there's no b story. So, yeah, there's not a lot of, like. You know, there's not a lot of stuff to tear apart. It's almost like you said, you just. The way you felt about the episode is pretty much where it ranks, right? It's kind of like, oh, that was a kind of cool episode. That's it. There's not much to talk about. But I did get a couple things again, having watched this twice now, so I thought the idea of a rendezvous was interesting. So, normally, on, like, an episode of a Star Trek, right, someone's got a disease. The cure is on this other planet, right. It'll take us seven days at warp to get there, but he's only gonna live three days. What do we do? Right? [00:18:43] Speaker B: Right. [00:18:43] Speaker A: Well, there's no starships in the area, but there's a starship there. Meet us halfway. Like, that barely happened on Star Trek. It was a great idea. I mean, yeah. You know, either, like, for dramatic effect, they didn't really, like, think of that, I suppose. For example, there's an episode on next gen that I'm thinking of off the back called brothers, where this one kid on the Enterprise, you know, plays a prank on his little brother and, you know, infects him with this weird. He ate this weird plant or something. And now he's got this disease, and they don't get the starbase, blah, blah, blah. In four days, he's gonna die. And of course, you know, that's when data commandeers the ship and, you know, he gets taken over by this blah, blah, blah. So. But if there was somebody there who has a ship, just start heading our way, this kid's gonna die. Meet us halfway. It's something that they never really did. But I love that the animated series said, you know what? Fuck it. We're gonna. That makes sense. Let's do that. [00:19:31] Speaker B: And did they do a show on Star Trek where Spocker had an illness like this, or was like, you know. You know, as far as I remember. [00:19:39] Speaker A: Not like this specifically. He did get. He did have illnesses on the show. I think there's multiple episodes where he was, like, sick or, you know, taken over or had something medically wrong with him. But, yeah, as far as I know, this is pretty unique. So, yeah, so, you know, four days to find the cure, three days to live. Usually zero options, but have another ship meet you. That makes perfect sense. And I suppose the conceit is that, like, the enterprise is so out on the fringes, exploring the galaxy, that there isn't usually another ship around. Because they're the ones who are out on the frontier. Right. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Right. [00:20:08] Speaker A: Where no one's gone before. So there's not gonna be a million ships out there. [00:20:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:12] Speaker A: But, yeah, no, I like the fact that the whole crew kind of came together to help spot. That was kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, no, so that was a very enjoyable episode. I liked seeing the Orions, or the Orions, which is weird but solid episode. I think it's hilarious. [00:20:27] Speaker B: That's both our number ten and this was a season. Two episode. Right. There's only two seasons of. [00:20:32] Speaker A: I. Only two seasons. And the second season only had six episodes in it, so. [00:20:36] Speaker B: Which is great. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Is one of the six eps in the second season. I guess. It got canceled. They did a full slate in season one of 20. What is it, 22 episodes. Then they had four years. 26 total, I want to say. Right. So, yeah, 26. We both have the number ten. [00:20:50] Speaker B: No, I think there's only 20. There's 22, I think. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Oh, my. Oh, you're right. I'm sorry. There were how many episodes in the first season, then? [00:20:58] Speaker B: 15, I guess. Guess. [00:21:01] Speaker A: And then seven in the second episode. [00:21:02] Speaker B: No, 15. Right. 1617. 1819. [00:21:06] Speaker A: I'm gonna look this bitch. [00:21:07] Speaker B: No, 16. Had to be 16 and then six. [00:21:11] Speaker A: It was, in fact, 16 and six. Good job. Yeah. [00:21:15] Speaker B: So it's math, which I fail at being a dick. I was fucking counting my fingers here. Like, 16. Yeah, no, yeah, so, so. But. But it. But, you know, and again, I. Listening to you describe the episode, I'm like, fuck, I wish I would have rewatched these before because it's been a while for me, but, uh, you. [00:21:35] Speaker A: You waited for me. It's all my bad. Yeah, I enjoyed it, too. So, listen, we both did. Number ten. You want to just jump into your nine, then? [00:21:40] Speaker B: Yes, I will. Now, number nine, I have. Let's see if you have the same one. I have. The slaver weapon. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Are you fucking kidding me? [00:21:47] Speaker B: Really? Number nine. Are we going all. We going the whole route here? All right. [00:21:54] Speaker A: That would be. If that happens, that'd be insane. [00:21:56] Speaker B: So that's like hitting the lottery. I got. Let's. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Crazy. All right. 7.0 on IMDb. And Sulu discover an ancient multi use weapon and are captured by the Zinti, who are equally interested in it. Unbelievable. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Now, so that's our number nine. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Go ahead. Let's hear it. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Who were the zinty? Now? [00:22:18] Speaker A: There were there, as far as I could tell. And again, I don't know the original series as well as the other shows. I've never heard of them until this. This series. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay, okay. [00:22:28] Speaker A: So I don't know who they are. [00:22:29] Speaker B: So now I'm trying to remember this episode now. So. And what happens now to trying to deliver? [00:22:34] Speaker A: So, yeah, so spock over and Sulu discover an ancient multi use weapon. It's weird. It's like, um. So what I was. What I thought was cool is so they, um. It's only the three of those three characters in this episode, by the way. It's only Spock over and Sulu in this whole episode. [00:22:48] Speaker B: I don't remember that. [00:22:49] Speaker A: And they find these, like, they find these, like, stasis boxes, they're called. And time is suspended inside these boxes. Apparently, a race billions of years ago ruled the galaxy and mastered the sciences called the Zinti. And they're telepathic. They had weaponry that could. Weaponry that could devastate a galaxy. Now, I don't know if in 1973, if they knew how big a galaxy was, but that's. That's simultaneously cool and ridiculous at the same time. This episode takes place in 22, 69. Sulu says the first war with humankind with the Zinti was 200 years ago. So that means that in 2069, which is, you know, not many years from right now in real life, we're gonna be at war with the zinc. I remember I wrote. I actually wrote down the words, better buck up, better buckle up, Gen Z, because they're gonna be fucking Warren with the goddamn city. So I think they just threw that year out there without really thinking about it too much. But again, 1973 seemed a lot further away from 2069 than, you know, 2024 does. So, yeah, you know, kind of cool. You can't blame them for that, really. But I thought that was funny. [00:24:01] Speaker B: No, but I was gonna say, too, now that you mention it, I do remember Kirk not being in the episode because I was. I thought that was. I guess I didn't realize at the time that it was only them three, but I did. That definitely was like, wow, there was no Kirk in this episode. You know, like, I kind of like. [00:24:17] Speaker A: That, you know, nothing. Not because I don't like Kirk. I just like the idea that they kind of did something different, you know, I like the idea. [00:24:22] Speaker B: I agree. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Just had these three characters in it, you know. You know, I think Kirk, you know, William Shatter still got paid. He was still billed as being in the episode. But I like that. I like, that was kind of cool. Let you focus on three characters. Really cool. Like I said, the idea of this ancient, ancient race being able to devastate a galaxy with these time suspending stasis boxes, it's just a cool, fucking cool fucking idea. Cool sci-fi idea. Reminded me a lot of the Farnsworth paradox, which is a really great episode of Futurama. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Okay. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Where the professor creates this universe inside this little cardboard box. 1st third of the episode, the whole crew was just trying not to let curiosity get the better of an open the box. And then, of course they do. And then there's, you know, another universe on the other side, and it gets all crazy, but reminded me of that, the Farnsworth paradox and to be future Alma fans out there. Check that out. It's a lot of fun, I should say. If you Futurama fan, any Star Trek fans, you might want to check out Futurama. That's a good one to start with, especially if you like the slaver weapon, like Brian and I do. Bomber and I apparently like the slaver weapon in 9th place. That's fucking crazy. [00:25:29] Speaker B: I can't believe that. [00:25:30] Speaker A: If we have eight, that would be pretty insane. Like, what are the odds against that? Well, yeah, what are the odds of that? Like, it's pretty crazy. [00:25:38] Speaker B: I'm trying to get to something here. All right, here we go. All right. All right. Well, now I'm trying to find the description of this episode because of this. All right. My number eight is the survivor. [00:25:52] Speaker A: Okay, good. It's not mine. Started with the. But it's not. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Oh, I was hoping. All right. [00:25:59] Speaker A: You have the description. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Um, no, I I'm. I don't. You. You. Oh, wait. [00:26:04] Speaker A: I got. I'll queue it up. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Okay, good. [00:26:06] Speaker A: You ready? A famous human. I know you like this episode, too. A famous humanitarian is found alive near the Romulan neutral zone after being missing for five years. But he may not be who he claims to be. Take it away. Why'd you like the survivor? Why survivor number eight? [00:26:23] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I'm trying to remember now, to be honest. Yeah. I'm trying to look up these. These. These destroyed, but I remember them coming upon the ship and the guy being there. And I guess there was a. There was a. There was some of a mystery to the whole thing there, you know? And. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:26:41] Speaker B: And I guess it was the idea of them, like, you're out in space, and you see this random ship there, and, you know, you're like, who the fuck is this guy? Whatever. Now, again, I'm curious to know, was this a character on the actual show? I mean, is that a. [00:26:54] Speaker A: It was not. Now, the Romulan neutral zone is something that, of course, exists on the actual show. On many of the shows, the Romulans are long enemies of, you know, Kirk and Spock, enemies of Picard and Riker, enemies of pretty much every Star Trek iteration, except for Picard, in which they were kind of friends and sort. Towards the end of these phase nine Romulans joined the Federation in the war against the Dominion. But for the most part, Romulans are a great enemy for Star Trek, and the Romulan neutral Zone is, you don't. [00:27:24] Speaker B: You. [00:27:24] Speaker A: Don't cross that. That's for sure. [00:27:26] Speaker B: Okay. Trouble. [00:27:26] Speaker A: Only trouble lies there. Yeah. That's the one with Ted Knight, right? [00:27:30] Speaker B: Yes, yes, I did. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Ted Knight, who I know. I only know from Caddyshack. And too close for comfort. I'm sure he was in a ton of other stuff. [00:27:39] Speaker B: That's. That's what I know him from, too. Yeah, right, right. [00:27:42] Speaker A: I loved him. I'm too close for comfort. He was absolutely hilarious between him and Jim J. Bullock. Oh, my God, they were so funny going back and forth. [00:27:49] Speaker B: And Jim J. Bullock. I know from three things. It's. [00:27:51] Speaker A: It's. [00:27:51] Speaker B: It's too close for comfort. Space balls. And I house Hollywood squares. [00:27:56] Speaker A: Hollywood Squares, baby. I know it. And the center square. Jim Jerry's. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Now, I, um. I. Again, I do think that I forget what the was. Was there some kind of twist with this guy on the ship or something? [00:28:16] Speaker A: Right. [00:28:16] Speaker B: Or. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So he was a shapeshifter that change shape. [00:28:22] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:28:23] Speaker A: Yeah. His original form looked like this, like almost like a praying mantis, sort of. [00:28:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:29] Speaker A: And he was like. He was a bad guy then. He was a good guy towards the end. It was a good episode. [00:28:33] Speaker B: No, it was. Yeah. Yeah. Because at one point, you know, it's one of those things. It's kind of one of those annoying. Not annoying things, but it's like one of those things when you're watching something and he's. At one point, I remember, I feel like he's in the doctor's room and he's changing into it, but they're not seeing. No one's seeing. And then eventually one person, you know, I was like, he's right there. You know, you're kind of yelling at the tv, like, what the fuck are we doing here? You know? It was definitely a fun episode. Yeah. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Awesome. So. [00:29:03] Speaker B: So you have a different number eight. [00:29:05] Speaker A: I do. We part ways for the first time. So it is number eight. It's the eye of the beholder is what I have for my number eight. [00:29:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:14] Speaker A: This is a 6.7 on IMDb. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Wow. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Did I mention that a survivor was 6.8? [00:29:21] Speaker B: I. Oh, no, you didn't. You didn't. You mentioned 7.0, but that was for the slaver weapon. Okay? [00:29:27] Speaker A: Correct. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Okay, so survivor was. [00:29:31] Speaker A: I believe it was 6.8. Yep. 6.8 survivor. So this one is 6.7. So, you know, not as rated as high. So. Sorry. While investigating the disappearance of Federation members, Kirk and his landing party find themselves placed in an alien zoo. Now, this concept is nothing new at all. This was done, as far as I could tell, at least twice in Star Trek, once in the pilot episode of Star Trek, the original, the cage, the unaired pilot with Jeffrey Hunter that we talked about. [00:30:02] Speaker B: Right. [00:30:03] Speaker A: So, yeah. So a couple things about this episode that I think are hilarious. Sorry. What do you got? [00:30:11] Speaker B: I was only gonna mention that. I don't know. I forgot how we did this. It's been a while since I had a list at the same time as you did, but the eye of the beholder is my number five. [00:30:20] Speaker A: Well, I had the survivor on my list as well. I figured. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Oh, you did? Okay. You're gonna wait a little. Well, now I know. I'll hold off then. I'll hold off. [00:30:27] Speaker A: It's been so long since we did list. I love it. It's a happy, happy problem to have. [00:30:33] Speaker B: But I love this episode. Now, when you say the zoo thing, this is when they're looking at them like they're in the zoo. Like they're in this. Right. Aren't in some kind of glass container or something. Yep. Are they shrunk? [00:30:44] Speaker A: No, no, I think the other creatures. Just big, right? [00:30:47] Speaker B: The other creatures is big. Yeah, I'm trying to. [00:30:49] Speaker A: This was a. This was hilariously spoofed on Rick and Morty as well in the mind blower episodes. Yeah, yeah. Really great scene from that. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Because. Because I know you're saying this is nothing new. I love this whole idea. This whole idea. I love the whole thing was. I thought it was fucking phenomenal. I love it. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Yeah. It doesn't mean it's a bad idea. It just means it's. It's like a sci-fi. It's been done, you know? I mean. [00:31:08] Speaker B: Okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. [00:31:09] Speaker A: So I don't remember or not, but bones deforest Kelly. He was wrong so many times in the first ten minutes of this episode, I was fucking dying. Really, everything. He, like, conjectured and said, we should do this. Like, it was. It was just a wrong decision. Every time I was dying to the point where I think they were just because I wrote this, they were just setting him up for, like, correcting exposition. Like, he would say something, and then Spock would tell you more about the episode by correcting how wrong he was. You know what I mean? Was just a device to, like, move the story along. But it was so bad, so. Yeah. So Kirk, Spock and bones are trapped in an alien zoo. It was a very straightforward, scientific, method type episode, is what I wrote. So I guess you know, they analyzed what the problem was. They figured it out. They figured out a solution and I got out of it again. Just because an idea has been done doesn't mean it's not fun. Doesn't mean it's not. Still can't do original things with it. It's number eight on my list. Because it was fun. It was fun to watch. Number eight out of 22 is not too bad. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I was definitely all engaged in this because it was one of those things where it was like, to me, I guess I'm trying to think of other Sci-Fi things that I can think of like this but to me, it was a very unique and interesting. And I was all involved with it. I was like, this is phenomenal. [00:32:24] Speaker A: Well, the comedian like Jerry and George in one of the cold opens of Seinfeld talked about if they were in an alien Zoo George hopes that he'd be put in with a woman and he'd be forced to mate with her. You know what I mean? Jerry asked him, would you rather be in an alien zoo or an alien circus? And George is like, well, I'd rather be in a zoo. Because maybe they'll put a female in there and, you know, we could mate, you know. So it's definitely an idea that's been spoofed over the years as well. You know, it's been touched upon for comedic purposes. Yeah, a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Good episode. That was my number eight. What is your seven, sir? [00:32:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I. For some reason, you know, I was trying to look on. I've been. I've been. Forgive me. I've been looking at my phone trying to find. I thought I won doing so much of this when I was actually watching it. I found so many great sites that have, like, all the episode description. I mean, now, of course, I can't find anything. So I went to IMDb, like you and I saw now, mom. And even my number seven is. I'm not gonna pronounce this right, but the Lorelei signal. [00:33:20] Speaker A: Lore I. Laura lies signal is my number. Okay, I remember this episode. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah, this one is not on my. [00:33:27] Speaker A: List, so go for. [00:33:28] Speaker B: Wow. Okay, so this is the females. [00:33:30] Speaker A: This might have been. This might have been dead last, actually on my list. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Really? Oh, wow. [00:33:35] Speaker A: Crazy about it, but it's good. Go for it. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Female crew members must take over the enterprise when the men are incapacitated by a race of sirens. Right now, I don't know if I have the right rating on here, 6.5. Is that. Is that what you got? On there. [00:33:49] Speaker A: I didn't, I didn't put it. I only rated the ones I had, you know, gotcha. [00:33:53] Speaker B: But I'm on IMDb, so it's probably the same. [00:33:56] Speaker A: 6.5. Yep. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:57] Speaker A: Right? [00:33:58] Speaker B: And, um. Yeah, I like this idea. First of all, I thought it was hilarious because, you know, you have the guys on the crew that are just like, you know, to me. To me, it made sense from the standpoint of, like, you know, it would be like if we, if our crew went to, like, a planet. There was all these, am I miss remembering this. But aren't these. There's a bunch of hot women they run into and they're like, you know, and they kind of fall under their spell and then, you know, oh, yeah. Then the women got to come in and fucking, you know, save the day because they're all fucking morons or whatever. You know what I mean? I thought that was hilarious. I was like, you know, and I kind of liked that. I kind of liked that they gave the women, because, you know what's funny? Is it, from what everything I read on here, they didn't really give a horror a lot to do in the original show. So it was kind of nice that here she gets a little opportunity to do some shit, you know? [00:34:44] Speaker A: I did like that. I like that a lot. That Ohura took charge. I remember when I was considering this for the top ten, it was knocked out once. I watched eleven episodes. But no, no, there's no, there's no hide. And cue making fun of you on this one. They're all subjective. Yeah, I remember I liked the horror stepping up. I remember thinking it was so goofy. Like, I don't know, it's a cartoon and it's goofy anyway, but I remember thinking that they were running to hide from the girls and they hid inside this big tube thing, right? And then there's no way they wouldn't look inside there. Like, it's just impossible. Like, the three of them are standing outside this big tube. Like, there's no way they wouldn't look inside to see if they were in there. Yeah, I think that was weird. They were growing old from what I remember. Like, they were aging rapidly in that episode as well. [00:35:30] Speaker B: Again, I like that. I like that idea that was, you know. [00:35:32] Speaker A: Yeah, there was a lot going on. Like I said, I totally get it. My. One of mine on this list is, like, way lower ranked than any of these, so make fun of me all. [00:35:40] Speaker B: You want, you know, I can't wait to bury you on that shit. But, yeah, no, like, I said, I like the idea that I thought it was kind of comical that the guys fell under the spell. It seemed like this might have been an opportunity where they took an opportunity to say, you know what? Let's have. Let's have the women fucking run the show. And I thought that was a cool fucking idea. You know, I gotta say, you know. [00:35:59] Speaker A: It really is, actually, that's a good point. And I'm really intrigued to get your perspective on this. You know, I mean, someone who's never watched, really, Star Trek before, how you're sort of evaluating these episodes is fascinating, and that's. That's a completely valid, you know, thing to appreciate. Yeah, I mean, like I just said, it's. That was my favorite part of the Episode when a horse stepped up was all, these guys are fucking idiots. Come on, girls, let's go. You know, we take. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Idea. It's good. [00:36:27] Speaker B: It kind of gave signal. I like, you know, and again, he's one of those things where it's like, to be honest, you like, you know, it's a shame to me that. I'm sure there's other Star Trek fans. They're like, 22 episodes was too many. But, like, if it had gone on for a longer time, you might have had episodes, but, like, that lioness girl got an episode, or the fucking, you know, the. The boss fucking guy got it. I don't know, you know, we could have spread it out a little bit more. Where it was nice to see was the change of pace. Kirk and Spock aren't the main shit here. It's gonna be. I don't know. I like that. But, yeah, maybe that's what it was for me, it was like, it's something different than the rest. That's why I put on a list. But hey, dead last for you and fuck you. Let's hear number seven, I should say. [00:37:06] Speaker A: I think it was dead last. But no, that. That's. That's all valid. It's all valid. Um, yeah. All right. Yeah. So my number seven, um, was the infinite Vulcan. Um, I like this episode. This is not a popular episode of 6.1 on IMDb, which is, again, terrible, but it's not great either. So on a planet of intelligent plant like creatures, the clone of a human scientist clones mister Spock for use in a galactic peace mission. Some interesting ideas here. The idea of a plant planet. Interesting. Um, the planet Phylos, which is interesting name. So we got sentient plants. A couple things I liked about the episode. So this was the first episode that had all six from the main characters from the original series in one episode. By the way, this was the. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Was George the kind in the show? I don't think he was in this show. Oh, yeah. [00:37:58] Speaker A: And in this episode. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:38:01] Speaker A: And this. What's cool about this? [00:38:04] Speaker B: I'm sorry, I'm missing the guy you mentioned that wasn't George the Kaise. Walter caning was the guy. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Well, he wrote this episode, so I was gonna bring it up. That's actually wrote this episode. [00:38:13] Speaker B: Yes. Okay. That's what I was thinking. Go ahead. I'm sorry. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So all six of the main. Of the main characters from the original series were in this episode. And then Walter caning, the 7th character, he got a chance to write it. So that was kind of cool, you know, so some of the funny things about the animated series, you know, they use the same music sort of over and over. They use the same sound effects sort of over and over. So, like, when the plant dragons or whatever, these purple things are swooping down and trying. You know, it's the, like, it's the same. It's. I remember hearing it from super friends. It's like, it's like an overused sound effect from, like, that. That. Well, you know, and certain. [00:38:46] Speaker B: There were certain. There were certain shots of the show. Like, would Spock would look into some kind of viewfinder thing where there was a certain thing. They would always use the same thing over and over. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Save money. No. No one shit on it. You do what you got to do, you know? [00:38:59] Speaker B: No, yeah. [00:39:00] Speaker A: They still made it entertaining. Yeah. So I like that. I like that you got giant Spock at one point. That was kind of fun. Giant Spock, yeah. You know, the whole idea of sanctioned plants. I just remember thinking. I went in thinking this episode was gonna suck, and I remember just having a blast watching it. It was a lot of fun. [00:39:15] Speaker B: I ranked at 13. Is that an honorable mention? I was trying to think of, you know, but it's pretty close. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Right? [00:39:20] Speaker B: I like. Yeah, I did like that. And I was. Remember, did they have to do something to try to differentiate that Spock wasn't Spock on this? [00:39:29] Speaker A: Hmm. That sounds vaguely familiar. [00:39:32] Speaker B: I know, me too. I can't remember if it was this episode or not, but I definitely remember when they made him a giant. That had to be that. I'm sure they never did that on the original show. Yeah, I was gonna say they. Did they make Spock ever make him giant on the original show? Like, that whole thing was so cool. I thought, good question. [00:39:47] Speaker A: I don't think no, I don't think so. I don't think they ever did that. Now that I think about. I think they ever did that. Any episode, the only time of any Star Trek, I think the only thing of is we mentioned super friends, right? Remember that indian chief? [00:40:00] Speaker B: I swear to God, I was about to bring him up. Apache chief. Yes. Yeah, yeah. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Oh, I used to love that. [00:40:06] Speaker B: That was awesome. [00:40:07] Speaker A: A Hulk or something, right? Say something. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Then there was a female spoof that. [00:40:12] Speaker A: On Family Guy, if I remember correctly. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Oh, really? There was a female that they had like, the same powers where he had like a rival. I forget what her name was. Giganta. No, I don't know if she used to do the same thing and I grow bigger or something like that. It was fucking weird. [00:40:25] Speaker A: I remember, like the. The hall of the Legion of Doom had a, like, they all had, like, you know, contrary powers. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:32] Speaker A: I should say similar powers. Right. There was a legion of doom dude who could grow really big. [00:40:36] Speaker B: You know that's what I mean. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:40:38] Speaker A: I remember they were like, standing, like, in the ocean in one episode. Like, they were both, like, so big that they were like, you know, they could almost float off into space. It was fucking ridiculous. But I used to love it. [00:40:48] Speaker B: Me too. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Yes. That was my number seven, infinite Vulcan. What is your number? Six. [00:40:54] Speaker B: All right. [00:40:55] Speaker A: You did seven already, right? [00:40:56] Speaker B: I did number six. [00:40:57] Speaker A: Let's hear your six, baby. [00:40:59] Speaker B: We're gonna go to season one, episode twelve, the time trap. [00:41:03] Speaker A: The time trap. Nice. [00:41:05] Speaker B: All right. [00:41:06] Speaker A: Nice. Not on my list. I love it. [00:41:08] Speaker B: Really? [00:41:10] Speaker A: Yeah, make the list. [00:41:11] Speaker B: 6.9. The Enterprise and a Klingon ship are trapped in a spacetime warp where only their cooperation will allow them to escape. [00:41:20] Speaker A: Nice. I do remember the episode. That was a fun one. That was close. That would. That would have been one of my honorable mentions for sure. [00:41:25] Speaker B: See, there you go. And again, I know this is probably a cliche thing, but it's like one of those things where it's like. And I'm sure they did this on super friends. They probably did. I know they probably did this on dukes of hazard where it's like, you know, boss hogs got to help out Uncle Jesse. Like they. You have the opposites. They have to team up to get the job done. Like, you know what I mean? You know? Yeah, right. You know, who does. [00:41:44] Speaker A: Who doesn't love that? [00:41:45] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, and again, I don't remember all the intricacies of the episode here, but do you remember anything on a rewatch? Because, I mean, again, if it's pretty. I mean, I'm talking about number six here. It's pretty high for me. But, you know, I liked it. I don't know the ones that I picked. [00:42:02] Speaker A: I wrote specific things that I knew would make me. They would like, remind me of the points in the. So I do remember that they had to work together. I remember that they had to reluctantly work together, but I don't remember the particulars of the plot itself. But I remember liking it a lot. I feel like it landed like twelve or eleven. Honestly, it was up there. [00:42:21] Speaker B: And. And what about like the. Did they ever do anything like that with the Klingons? Like, I'm sure has ever been on any of the shows where they had to kind of hook up together and get the job done? [00:42:34] Speaker A: Sure. Yeah. The Klingons are probably the most frequent alien species on, in the entirety of Trek, right? So the Klingons are in everything. And I do remember, I mean, certainly on D space nine, like, you know, season 4d, space Klingons became our enemies again. So in Kirk's time, the Klingon were enemies. On next gen, we were allies with the Federation and they were allies with the federation. And then on D space there was a rift between us for a couple seasons and then they came back to the fold to help fight the. The Dominion. So, yeah, I'm almost. I'm 100% positive that at some point there was a situation in which they had to team up to fight, you know, somebody else. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Right. [00:43:12] Speaker A: A D space nine episode like that that just springs to mind was called to the death where a federation away team had to team up with the Jem Hadar to take down rogue Jem Hadars, which was, you know, kind of fun. So, yeah, the idea of two enemies coming together to fight another enemy is always intriguing. It's always fun to watch. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so. And that's about all I got for you. Time trap. You know, what are we doing here? You know, I. This is helping me realize that for the next list that I have when I watch a show to make better notes when I. When I do this. [00:43:45] Speaker A: But no, folks, I've said this before, I'll say it again. Like, Brian was. Was chomping at the bit to do this list and I asked him, I said, hey, let me. Let me rewatch it. And of course, took me, you know, probably a solid month, month and a half to rewatch it. So that's on me. Like, he had it fresh in his mind and then I kind of, you know, so, yeah, dude, you know, it is what it is, man. I love your list. I love that you're doing a list. [00:44:06] Speaker B: Appreciate you. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Love it. [00:44:07] Speaker B: Love for me there. Yeah, no apologies, baby. What about your number six? Now let's. Let's get to it here. [00:44:14] Speaker A: My number six. I have to imagine this is on your list somewhere. This was a fun one. The terratin incident is my number six. [00:44:21] Speaker B: Okay? [00:44:22] Speaker A: It's a six. It's a 6.6 on IMDb. It's just sixes all over the place. Exposed to spyroid epsilon waves. The fuck that is. The enterprise crew begins to shrink in size. If a way cannot be found to stop their condition, they will soon be too small to control the ship. Look, there's no secret to this episode. It's just a lot of fun watching them fucking shrink. So it's pretty. It's pretty cool animation. They thought the ship could be expanding at first, which I loved. Right. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:51] Speaker A: You're in space. What's going on? The ship's getting bigger. I thought that was kind of cool, like, because you wouldn't necessarily know. Like, you know, you wouldn't necessarily. You can't feel yourself shrinking in that situation. So you don't know. So they thought the ship was getting bigger again, something else, the animated series, I think, would do that. I don't think a regular trek show would do. They would just immediately say, oh, we're shrinking. But I love that they were like, oh, you know, let's explore this option first. You know? [00:45:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Love that the, now, this said the uniforms are Xenalon. This was fucking interesting. They came up with a new uniform that shrinks with you. That was how they. That was how they explained their uniforms not being baggy, which, again, it's a 1973 Hanna Barbera style animated Star Trek series. You don't got to come up with an answer for everything. But I love that they did. So the uniforms of Xenalon, which is good to know, a clever way to make those clothes shrink. There was a point where nurse Chapel was stuck in a fucking fish tank or something. She yelled, help. Like, 28 times. [00:45:53] Speaker B: Really? [00:45:53] Speaker A: And, like, it was like, maybe the second time I was like, oh, my God. [00:45:58] Speaker B: Fuck up. We're coming. [00:45:59] Speaker A: And it was only annoying because it was clearly a dub of the same recording. Right. It wasn't like a different. Different help, you know? Nurse Chapel, by the way, is Gene Roddenberry's wife, Majel Barrett. She was playing that role. [00:46:10] Speaker B: And I wonder if she did do 28 different takes. They were like, no, stop. We're just gonna use the same one. You know what I mean? [00:46:16] Speaker A: Like, oh, you know what I like? I like that. Um, terror tin. Like they actually, if I remember correctly, they explained what it meant. It was terra minus ten. And that's how they came up with terror tin. [00:46:31] Speaker B: You're right. It. Because I remember when I turned, I was like, what the fuck does terror to mean? And they did, they did do that. You're right about that. I don't remember exactly the specifics of that, but yes, I do remember that. [00:46:40] Speaker A: So here's what's cool, here's what's really cool about this. So the whole. I don't remember now, but the whole point of this episode, the crew is shrunk so they're able to make contact with this alien species. So they meant them no harm. They shrunk them down so they can make contact with them. Remindedly, reminded me 100% of this episode of next Gen that some of you out there may remember called the nth degree. The nth degree where Barclay became like, super smart. So there's this probe and it zaps him and he becomes super smart. It was very much like a flowers for Algernon type episode, a Charlie type thing or a Lawnmower man, if you're an eighties movie fan. So he was getting smarter. And eventually he takes the Enterprise, warps them to this far unknown place in the galaxy. And the whole point of it, these Cythereans did that to him. So he would bring the Enterprise to them. So they explore the galaxy but they never leave their home. It's really, really fascinating. So they explore the galaxy but they bring every species to them and learn about them that way. Really cool twist on the whole. Boldly going, right? So that put it, that put it at number six for me. [00:47:45] Speaker B: I was going to say, honey, I shrunk the Enterprise. I was gonna say that before, you know, it was, you know, it was classic. I mean, you know, what are we doing here? [00:47:52] Speaker A: That would, that would 100% be one of the names they thought about if that took place in like the nineties, right? [00:47:57] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. [00:47:58] Speaker A: That's so good. All right. We're moving right along, baby. That's our, that's our top, top. Their first five. So let's, let's rock. Number five, what do you got? [00:48:07] Speaker B: Well, we know number five for me, I had mentioned it before, it is the eye of the beholder. You know, again, it was the, the whole idea of them being, you know, observed like they were being in the zoo thing and I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think of what that reminded me of. But it was, um. I'm trying to think. I feel like it reminded me of some other thing I've seen. But it. But it was definitely an idea. I was like, this is fucking awesome. Like, I love that whole fucking thing. But we are getting into it. So now what is your number five? We're getting the top five here now. [00:48:39] Speaker A: So my number five, and we haven't mentioned this one yet. So it's called one of our planets is missing is number five. I like this a lot. I like this because listen, I like it's not. Was laughing at something. [00:48:52] Speaker B: It's not dead last on my list, but it's second till dead last. The. [00:48:56] Speaker A: There you go. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Number 21 on my list. It began. Let me know. Let's hear it. [00:49:00] Speaker A: What's the rating on this bitch? I didn't really look at it wasn't one of the planets is missing is rating. [00:49:04] Speaker B: I'm trying to. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Seven. Not terrible. Not terrible. [00:49:07] Speaker B: Not bad. [00:49:08] Speaker A: 6.7. So yeah, so I like bold swings. I've said that a bunch of times. I like big Sci-Fi concepts. So the crew of the Enterprise must stop a living planet consuming cloud before it attacks an inhabited world. Not, not, not a mind blowing synopsis, however. I love the fact that. I love the fact that this sentient planet eating cloud is 800 km in diameter, which I think is fucking awesome. It's bigger than Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune put together. They mentioned that in the episode. Fucking awesome. How was this. How was this last on your list? One of the things like Kirk just completely says fuck the prime directive in this episode. He doesn't even give a shit about it. Like, I think they may have called it general order number one back then, but I love the kirk just said, nah, fuck it. We're just going to go for it. He completely fucks the prime directive over. I love that. Here's what else I love about this episode. Everyone pitched in in this episode. I liked it. Every single person had something to do. Every crew member had something to do in this episode. They were kind of pivotal to the plot. Orora, Scotty, Sulu, all of them had something to do. It was really a team effort. So, yeah, I like the big Sci-Fi concept and I like the fact that everybody pitched in. I like that Kirk said fucked I it. You know, we got the prime directive, but we got to get this shit done. Love it. [00:50:29] Speaker B: I, you know, I got to be honest, I'm trying to remember now why I had it so low. I mean, maybe because like what was the main nemesis here was a fucking giant gas thing. Like, what the fuck are we doing? [00:50:38] Speaker A: Giant planet eating cloud. Yep. Which is nothing new for Star Trek. You know, there's a lot of sentient clouds rolling around out there. [00:50:46] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe that wasn't very romantic to me. I don't know. And it's funny, like, to me, it always depends on how it's done. When you talk about the whole team has to chip in, you know? Because there's definitely moments where that can get a little fucking cheesy. I don't know what it is, but. And I'm not saying that that happened here. I don't remember that being something that I didn't like about it, but, um. Yeah, I don't know what it is that I. You know what? I gotta be honest. [00:51:10] Speaker A: You. [00:51:11] Speaker B: It sounds like a. Deserves a rewatch. I'll have to take out the chance, you know. [00:51:15] Speaker A: There you go. You never know. All right, we're zipping, baby. We're zipping past this list. [00:51:20] Speaker B: When I hear you say that you put that. That high, it makes me think one of our podcasters is missing. I mean, you know, where is my partner here? [00:51:27] Speaker A: One of our common sense neurons is missing. Um, yeah. So, hey, look, that's, uh. That's my number five. Let's go. Number four, take it away. What do you got? [00:51:36] Speaker B: All right. Now, I'm not gonna. Definitely not gonna remember how to. How to, uh. I'm not gonna pronounce this right, but I got the Ambergris element. [00:51:44] Speaker A: Okay. The water episode. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Yes. That almost made mine almost switch .6.4 on here. Now, while the Enterprise investigates a water world, Captain Kirk and Commander Spock go missing, been ducked, abducted by the world's inhabitants, and altered into water breathing. Water breathers as well. That was fucking a phenomenal idea. And if I remember right, it took them a while to get them to turn back into their regular form, you know? Right. [00:52:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:13] Speaker B: I thought it was fucking awesome. Like, they had to go into, like, some kind of, like, fish tank and fucking breathe. I was like, what the, you know, reminded me of, like, Luke and empire when he's fucking. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Abyss. The abyss, right? With that, Harris is breathing the liquid, the liquid oxygen. Right? Never saw the abyss. [00:52:28] Speaker B: Never. Never saw the abyss. I know. I hear it's great. [00:52:31] Speaker A: Oh, it's a good one, but it's not. It's not, you know. Oh, my God. You got to see it. But it's good. It's worth watching. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Right? Right. And I guess. And again, I guess that's what it is is that, you know, again, it's funny how watching this show and talking about it makes me think about how much Sci-Fi do I really know? I mean, you know, like, because I think this idea was a great idea. Like, the idea that all of a sudden, like, it's. It's like, what would it be like if we were fucking? We had to breathe underwater, you know? You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's. [00:53:00] Speaker A: Yes. We would become, you know, Kevin Costner in Waterworld where we'd start developing gills and shit. Right. [00:53:05] Speaker B: Never saw that either, you know? [00:53:07] Speaker A: All right, maybe you do need to watch more Sci-Fi that's all right. A lot of good stuff out there. No, that was fun episode. I remember there was a sea creature who was menacing them for a while. Right? Probably had the same shriek as the plant dragons, but, you know, still liked it. Still liked it a lot. That was an exciting episode from what I remember. Different, you know, water planet, a little. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Different, you know, and that's. That's what I thought I was going to say was, I think for me, in putting my list together, I think that's what it was more than again. And I was joking around before one of our planets is missing. It's like, you know, because even in putting something last or dead or dead to last or, you know, middle of the pack, they were all fun. It wasn't like, it wasn't like I hated the episode. It's a matter of. To me, it was about the concept of the idea. Like, now we're, you know, we're gonna make them into a zoo or whatever it is, or, you know, and they're being observed that way. Or, you know, and to me, it was this idea where we're gonna be fucking. We have to breathe on the water like that. You know, Spock's gonna be big one episode. Like, I love. I love that they did a lot of fucking things that maybe they couldn't do on the real show. You know what I mean? So I like. [00:54:10] Speaker A: That's 100% true. We didn't bring that up. Like, you know, as much as we're talking about them saving money and stuff, they were able to do concepts that they wouldn't be able to pull off, certainly not in sixties television, you know, live. [00:54:19] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly, exactly. Right. [00:54:21] Speaker A: Hundred percent true. It's a great point. Great point. [00:54:24] Speaker B: But, yeah, that was my number four. So now let's get to number four here, you know? [00:54:28] Speaker A: All right, here we go. This is where I start scraping the bottom of the barrel, according to IMDb. I love this episode. Episode. So this is a 5.8. This is the magics of megas two. Okay. So at the center of the galaxy, a race puts the Enterprise crew on trial for past grievances. Now, you've seen this in Star Trek before. This is what Q did to the next gen crew in the pilot episode of Next Generation. [00:54:53] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. [00:54:54] Speaker A: So listen, I got a lot. This was a fun. I don't know why this is so lowly rated. This was so fun. First of all, the center of the galaxy, where they believe matter is being created, which is interesting. So I don't know if in 1973, they knew of other galaxies, right? Because it seems like for them to say, oh, matters created in the center of the galaxy, that's kind of weird. It seems to me like they think we're the only. This is the only galaxy out there, you know? But either way, that was interesting. But so you know what? I'm sorry. I did a little research. So I said to myself, wow, did they think in 1973 that. That our galaxy was the center of the universe? No. Edwin Hubble discovered the Andromeda galaxy in 1924. So there you go. So the Hubble telescope, named after Edwin Hubble, the next galaxy closest to us is the Andromeda galaxy, and he discovered that in 1924. So they knew for over 50 or for about 50 years that there were other galaxies. So maybe the idea of matter being created, you know, at the center of a galaxy is. It's interesting to know, but confused me a little bit, but did not stop me from liking that episode. Spock draws a pentagram and uses dark magics to do his experiments. Like, that alone is worth giving this episode another look. There's a character called Lucian in this episode. He's actually the fucking devil. They. The Enterprise encounters the devil. This episode is bonkers, right? It's just fucking out there. They have a drink with the devil in this episode. Quote, belief is as potent a force as energy and matter are. So Kirk said that that was Kirk's log. Okay. Now, that is very reminiscent of a next gen episode that you'll see very soon if you watch season one that involved the traveler, in which thought is interchangeable reality. So if you think it, it's real. So that reminded me a lot of that. But there's more. There's more to this episode. This episode was non stop. They. When they appear in Salem, Massachusetts, Kirk says 16th or 17th century, I would guess that's important. I'm gonna say that again. When they appear in Salem, Massachusetts, Kirk says, oh, I think it must be the 16th or 17th century. I love this. Here's why. On next Gen, which takes place in, you know, the 24 hundreds, right? Whenever they talk about, like, the russian revolution or, you know, Hammurabi, everybody on the whole crew knows the exact year that happened, right? Like, there's no way. Like, as smart as all these federation, you know, citizens and Starfleet personnel are, they're not gonna know right off the bat, you know, every single historical event that's happened in the last fucking 6000, you know, they just won't know it. So I love the fact that Kirk, he doesn't have an encyclopedic knowledge of Earth's history. He just. Okay. I think it was. Remember correctly, was 16th or 17th century. I thought that was very realistic. And I love that about the episode. Loved it. [00:57:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, Kirk, who led the NFL in rushing in 1989? You know, I mean. [00:57:58] Speaker A: I always know that, you know. You know, there was a episode in, I want to say, the third season of next Gen. It was called the ensigns of command, in which they're having this tough negotiation with the shelliac. And at one point, Riker says, I take it the Sheliak hung up on us again. And even, like, as a teenager, I was like, there's no way they're still saying hung up like a telephone in the 24 hundreds. There's no fucking way. You know what I mean? And that was a. You know, it's sort of that type of thing, you know. [00:58:30] Speaker B: Now let me ask you this now, because you're going to maybe go on a tangent. I'll try to make you shorten here. Sure. But I don't know if I told you this. I was watching this show called Manhunter was a man. Manhunter. Manhunt. Maybe his manhunt. It was about the John Wilkes Booth thing. They did it on. It's on Apple plus. It's a. It's about them hunting down John Wilkes Booth. And the guy from. There's a guy from Game of Thrones that plays the secretary of war. I don't feel like I mentioned this on. Maybe I mentioned it on the other. On the hot. On movie. [00:58:57] Speaker A: I think you did. That's right. Good. [00:59:00] Speaker B: And in the. In one of the episodes, one of the guys goes, you know, they're trying to come up with a. Maybe a defense for the court proceedings, whatever. And he goes, well, this is going to be our Hail Mary here. You know, I was watching this with Allison. Well, she's reading next to me, or something I said, wait a second, Alice, listen to this. I said, you know, when you hear this fucking term, like what? You know, I'm like. I'm thinking Roger store back in, like, the fucking seventies. Like, how the fuck, like, did that mean the same thing it meant back then? Like, why are they throwing this out there? Like, I couldn't figure this out. You know? [00:59:34] Speaker A: Knows. [00:59:35] Speaker B: I don't know. It was like, you know, I don't know if they said this in Lincoln's time. I'm like, you know, but whatever. I was like, you know, but I made you. Made me think of that when you were talking about that before, but. And I think that, um. You know, one thing about this episode, too, I was gonna say, I don't know what it is. I know we did the whole courtroom thing there. When you talk, I like courtroom stuff, but I feel like I don't. It's not. It's never really been my favorite thing. Like, it's not something I. You know, like, if there's 20 episodes of a show and one of them is like a, you know, kind of a court thing to me, I'm. It's probably not gonna be one that I'm gonna go to right away. I don't know. You know, not that it wasn't magical, and it was like, I put the 17 on here. It wasn't like it wasn't fun, but I just guess it wasn't. It didn't grab me as much as some of the other ones did, I guess. [01:00:17] Speaker A: Well, this one is largely panned. I know. Crazy about the show. I just. I like those concepts. I thought it was pretty wild. I was more entertained watching this one than it was a lot of them, so. Yeah, yeah, I get it. It. But I liked it episode a lot. It was kind of fun. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Cool. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah. My number four. We're down to it. Top three. Let's go. [01:00:36] Speaker B: Top three. Well, my number three, you've already mentioned, and I gotta say, you said. You said it. You called. It was gonna be on here. The terror to an incident. Now I gotta go. [01:00:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Only because, you know, I never watched my father watch this movie called the Incredible Shrinking man, which was made in the fifties. I think he was obsessed with it for some reason. I never watched it with him. And then I was the incredible shrinking woman with Lily Tomlindeh. I never saw that. The only thing I saw, for some reason, I saw one part when she's in the sink, and what he. And I think it's Charles. He's throwing all the shit on her now. [01:01:07] Speaker A: Concepcion the maid is doing. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Is that who it was? That who was. Yeah, it grossed me the fuck out. I'm like, I can't. I can't check this out. But. But I love Tony. I shrunk the kids. And I tell you what, there was a lot of great episodes. Like, there was a marvel at. It might be on Disney plus now, but they had an old Spider man animated series in, like, the early eighties. I want to say there was an episode called the incredible Shrinking Spider man. That was my favorite episode of Spider Man. I loved that fucking episode. It was fucking awesome. [01:01:35] Speaker A: Nice. [01:01:35] Speaker B: And they did a super friends episode too, where they all got shrunk down. And, like, that whole idea is phenomenal to me. So I. When I saw it, when I saw this was happening in here, I was like, this is great. But like you said, they added the other element of it to where the idea was. They weren't sure what was going on. And that was another thing. What I like a lot about it is it's amazing to me how much detective work there is in a lot of it, you know, when they know something fucking weird is going on, like, even in the survivor one, like you were saying, but the shape shifting thing, or, uh, there's been other ones in the animated series where I'm like, damn. Like, something happened, and they have to figure out what the fuck. I loved it, you know? I mean, you'll love that. [01:02:14] Speaker A: Is, I'd say, like, 60% to 70% of, like, most Star Trek episodes is like, something happens. They got to figure out. They got it. They got to figure out, you know, find clues, figure out what's going on, how to solve the problem. Like, you're gonna love a lot of those episodes. [01:02:28] Speaker B: Yeah, because, you know. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Please. [01:02:32] Speaker B: No, I was only saying that I'm trying to remember what. What I pictured Star Trek to be in my mind was. Again, like, sometimes they get into the scientific babble about, you know, but again, that's fine. I'm not. I'm not saying I'm above that. It's just like, I don't know what's wrong of what I envisioned it to be. And I guess a lot of when you realize what the show is, they're going through space and something's gonna happen to them, I mean, does that happen on every show? I mean, you know, but I guess not, like, you know what I mean? Like, on the detective show, there's a murder, and you gotta figure out the murder. Like, this is, this is, things, like, other things are happening. To them. And it's like physical things, like they're getting shrunk or, you know, I got to breathe through water all of a sudden, or I'm getting ill. I'm getting growing old. Like, what the fuck? You know? Yeah, like, more things. I mean, these guys lived the lives of fucking at 10,000 men and fucking in 22 episodes. I mean, what are we doing here? You know? [01:03:14] Speaker A: Really do. Yeah, yeah. It's so true. Listen, one, I think my brother, when listening to this, he's gonna be impressed that I remember the name of the maid from the incredible shrinking woman, Concepcion. Number two, there's a great episode of. Isn't it? Come on. Episode of these face nine called one little ship in which they shrink. So the whole shuttlecraft shrinks with, like, three of them in there and they're flying around. The ship was the big ship. The Defiant was taken over by the Jemendar. And they're in this little shuttlecraft, you know, flying around trying to figure out how to take the ship back. So much fun. So, yeah, shrinking down. It's always fun. [01:03:47] Speaker B: That sounds like inner space. Another one where it's like, oh, God. [01:03:50] Speaker A: What a classic, right? Love interest. So good. Yeah. So, hey, that's your number three. Very good. I knew the terror to incident beyond there. It's a lot of fun. [01:03:59] Speaker B: A lot of fun. [01:04:00] Speaker A: My number three. You already mentioned it. We talked about a little the survivor. I love that. [01:04:04] Speaker B: Oh, you did mention it was on your list. [01:04:06] Speaker A: I'm with you. Yeah. So Ted Knight, of course, the most famous space trader alive, which I thought was interesting. It's a really fun ep, you know, of course, involves Romulan, neutral zone. So here's the part that put it over the top for me. You know, he's a shapeshifter, right? So at first he started out as, like, an enemy, and then he ended up. So towards the end, I don't remember, not. He shapeshifted into a deflector shield to prevent the Enterprise from getting hit by that. [01:04:32] Speaker B: Yes. [01:04:33] Speaker A: I thought that was such a fucking cool idea. Like, heel. [01:04:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that was cool. That was cool. [01:04:39] Speaker A: So, yeah, we already read the synopsis on. It's a 6.8 on IMDb. You know, Mister Ted Knight and. Yeah, and we talked about it. It's a good episode. What else can we say? [01:04:49] Speaker B: What else can we say, number two? [01:04:51] Speaker A: That's what we could say. [01:04:52] Speaker B: I have a feeling that my number two might be the same as yours, but, you know, I can't imagine that this wouldn't be on your list. But again, I. I only. Because I feel like if you're a Star Trek fan and you watch this show, this episode has to be on the list. Then for me, being an outsider watching it, I thought it was fucking phenomenal. So I went with yesteryear. I put this. I put this number two for me. [01:05:16] Speaker A: Nice. Great episode. Great up. Shall I read the description? [01:05:22] Speaker B: Now, this is the highest rating I've seen on here so far. This is 8.1. [01:05:26] Speaker A: It absolutely is. Yeah. It's the highest rated episode in the series. [01:05:29] Speaker B: After finding himself erase from recent history, Spock must travel back in time to save himself as a youth. I mean, that is. I mean, what are we doing here? You know? [01:05:37] Speaker A: What a great concept, right? [01:05:38] Speaker B: Phenomenal. And I can't believe this is only the second episode of the whole show. Like, you know, it was the first. I thought, no, according to this, it's season one, episode two. The first episode was beyond the farthest star. [01:05:49] Speaker A: Oh, you're dead. Right. No, of course. You're right. You're right. My badgest. Sorry. [01:05:53] Speaker B: And when I saw yesteryear, I'm like, holy shit, we're gonna fucking. And as I knew right away, this was gonna be a lot of fun to watch because this episode was just a fucking blast, you know? And, you know, what it was to me was like, I forget now, but you have to freshen my memory. But there was something in the beginning of the episode where I was like, wow, what the fuck is off here? Like, they didn't recognize Spock or they didn't know Spock? Is that what it was? He was. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Yeah, like, he didn't exist. So when they were like, hey, who the fuck are you? Right? [01:06:18] Speaker B: Yeah. It's almost like it's a wonderful life kind of a thing. I bet. I thought it was also cool because it was like a spock. And you always say this when there's a Spock centric episode. It's fucking awesome. I mean, you know, totally. [01:06:32] Speaker A: So good. I mean, spocks, you know, he's the most intriguing character from my money on the original series. And anytime you throw time travel on there, oh, forget about it. And if it's done right, fucking perfect. And look, just for the sake of, you know, fluidity here. So it. [01:06:47] Speaker B: It's my number one, I figured. So, like, it's gotta be. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Here's the thing. I wouldn't. I would normally never spoil that, but this is, you know, if there was to be a parrot sketch, this would have been it. This is. Yes. So the fact that this is my number one is no surprise. So I have no problem mentioning it. So, yeah, I liked everything you liked about it. I thought that it was interesting that the. The. The Endorians weren't blue in this episode, which is interesting. So Andorians are blue and they weren't blue. I thought that was interesting. Commander Thalen, Spock's replacement was not blue, which is cool, right? So Spock had a replacement. So he not only did they not know who he was, there was somebody else who was the science, first of all. [01:07:29] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [01:07:30] Speaker A: Really cool. [01:07:31] Speaker B: Especially for Spock, where he's like, what the fuck? You know? [01:07:34] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a little heart there, you know, with his beloved pet, you know, and he's talking to himself as a little kid. It was just a fun 2020 something minutes of little time travel. Little Spock couldn't get enough. It's. I think it's rightfully the highest rated episode. It was a lot of fun. [01:07:49] Speaker B: And I have to be honest, I feel like if you're a Star Trek fan, even if you hate this show, you have to like that episode. No, I mean, so. [01:07:56] Speaker A: Right. It was really well done. Really well done. That's a great call. Really well done. [01:08:00] Speaker B: No doubt. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Well, now I'm curious. I'm curious to see if my number two is your number one. [01:08:05] Speaker B: Well, I will say. I will say this before you say number two, that I feel like if I was a Star Trek fan die hard, I probably would have yesteryear number one, you know? And I'm thinking about from the standpoint of, to be honest with you, I had it number one for a while and to a point where I was like, again, I had looked at some lists after I looked, made my list, I looked at some list to see where my list compared, and all of them had yesterday. And I'm one. I'm like, I'm gonna have to parrot sketch this motherfucker, you know? But it wound up not being when I. When I saw the one I saw. So I'm curious to see what you, again, being an outsider, the one I picked, to me, was the most fun episode to me. So I'm curious to see what you got. [01:08:47] Speaker A: I'll tell you what. I also love the fact that the way we structured our lists here, the way it worked out, this. I'm glad that you got to not only start us off, but you're going to bring us home with your number one after I tell you my true. [01:08:57] Speaker B: That is. That is true. [01:08:58] Speaker A: I like that. So, yeah, so my number two, not much of a surprise here, folks. I know I usually throw curveballs at you. You in the top five, but now my number two is more troubles. More troubles. I can't get enough of tribbles. You know? I love. What? What do you got? What's going on? [01:09:16] Speaker B: No, I was so pumped up for you to say the episode that I have. [01:09:21] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sorry. [01:09:22] Speaker B: And you picked us with this is. These are these little fucking power puff balls, whatever the fuck they are. What are these? [01:09:26] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [01:09:30] Speaker B: I. I don't know. I couldn't take this thing. I know. [01:09:33] Speaker A: This is the case. This is the case where, like, being a Star Trek fan maybe definitely would have swayed you. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Gotcha. [01:09:39] Speaker A: Gotcha. The trouble with triples is one of the most, you know, classic episodes of the original series, DS nine. One of their best episodes was trials and tribulations. Right. I can't wait for you to watch this episode. We might even watch it just as a fun sort of experience. This was the episode where the deep space crew goes back to the original series, and they're literally in the episode trouble with tribbles. It's fucking crazy. But anyway, so, yeah, look, the crew of the Enterprise. Oh, I'm sorry. Hello. Cyrano Jones returns, infesting the Enterprise with tribbles that now grow to monstrous size. So in the original series, Cyrano Jones, he did the same actor, same everything. You know, the tribbles didn't grow. They just multiplied. There was cute little things that just got in the way. And it was very much a light hearted, humor type episode. But it's a classic. You know, it's a classic. When I was watching the original series, that was the ones when I couldn't wait to watch, especially since I've seen the DS nine episode first. So I watched the trials and tribulations where there were scenes from that original series episode in. It couldn't wait to watch it in its entirety. So I was very pumped when they came out with this. So Klingon. So first of all, Klingons, they. They have the. The shooting skills of a stormtrooper. They could not hit the fucking scout ship they were aiming at for anything. You remember that? They just couldn't hit it. [01:11:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Like 25 shots to finally blow it up. [01:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:05] Speaker A: So. And then Spock calls Koloff a superb marksman. I was fucking dying. I couldn't believe it. [01:11:11] Speaker B: Wow. [01:11:13] Speaker A: Anyway, the introduced the fact that tribbles get bigger. They introduced the fact that the tribbles have a natural predator called the Glommer. I've never heard of that. Before, but, um, that was something new. And look, this was a kitty type ending. But, uh, 7.47.0 on IMDb. It had a. Had a very childish type ending. Like a cutesy kitty type ending. But I actually thought it worked. I liked it a lot. And what can I say? The nostalgia in me just had to put it at number two. [01:11:42] Speaker B: Well, I had a lot of trouble with the fucking tribbles. They weren't in my top ten. I gotta hate to break it to you. No, I. Again, like you said, if I had seen some of the. If I had any knowledge of the history of the whole thing, I might. You're right. It might be higher. [01:11:58] Speaker A: Maybe the episode could fucking suck. I don't know. Maybe I'm just biased. [01:12:02] Speaker B: Now, I got to be honest with you. Before I get to number one, I got to say, my honorable mention, I had to put this on here was the practical joker. I thought that episode was fucking hilarious. [01:12:13] Speaker A: It was good. I mentioned that you liked the episode, remember? [01:12:17] Speaker B: Yes, I do. [01:12:18] Speaker A: I brought it up because that was the first holodeck, and I didn't know that holodeck was in the animated series. When we did our holiday episodes, I mentioned that, like, you know, it was a next generation device, but now, this was the first time. He's the holodeck. I remember saying he, dude, you'd love it when the fucking foods pouring out of the goddamn replicator all over sky. [01:12:35] Speaker B: I think, yes. [01:12:36] Speaker A: Fucking ridiculous. It was crazy. But I totally get why you would like it. [01:12:39] Speaker B: And I thought again, once again, I thought the concept of that was a fucking brilliant idea. I thought I liked that idea. [01:12:45] Speaker A: Right? It was good. I gotta tell you, I'm looking around. I'm looking. These other episodes, I could give you two guesses of what your number one is, but I'm nowhere near sure. Nowhere near. [01:12:56] Speaker B: Let me hear the guesses. Give it. Give me two guesses. [01:12:59] Speaker A: All right. My first guess would be. Let's see. So, of the episodes remaining, my first guess would be Mud's passion. That means my first guess, the second guess would be the final episode, would be the counterclock incident. [01:13:15] Speaker B: I was correct. No, it's not. I'd like the counterclock incident. The final episode, that was. That was where they went back in time. They were. They were getting younger or something, right? [01:13:23] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. [01:13:25] Speaker B: That was fucking cool. That was. That was number twelve. [01:13:27] Speaker A: That was in my top 15 for sure. [01:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. No, my. Now I gotta be honest. Yeah, I know now. So my number one. So I had. Yesteryear was number one forever. And then all of a sudden, I got to the episode 16 with a 6.2 rating. [01:13:42] Speaker A: The jihad. [01:13:43] Speaker B: The jihad. I. You know, I to be. This was in fucking. I like, when there's a whole clan of fucking people that have to go on a mission, like, what are we doing here? You know? And it was a little bit of a double cross at the end, which I thought was fucking cool, is, of course, one of the guys is fuck. And again, this is almost like we were saying before. Everybody almost has something to do. Like, someone's saving someone. They're on a journey to go, you know? And I love that whole idea. [01:14:07] Speaker A: This was attention for a while. You're dead, right? This was a fun episode. It's a 6.2 on IMDb. A team comprising various experts, Kirk and Spock among them must recover an artifact known as the soul of score, which was really, really kind of cool. The theft must be kept secret, or a galactic holy war could break out. Crazy. [01:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And again, so it was like, you know, I forget how they come upon this on the ship, but then they beam down to this thing, or they already on there, but there's like five or six or seven people, right? Or aliens, whatever, new have to journey to this fucking thing, and fucking trouble happens on the way. They got to get their way out of it. And then they get there, and then all of a sudden, one of the guys in the clan is against them, and, oh, you know, there was a rat here the whole time. Whatever you want to say. [01:14:54] Speaker A: I remember liking it a lot. It was definitely. It was up there as well. Like, know, that and the counterclock incident and the Ambergris element. Like, they were all up there. They were all good episodes. [01:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. And again, it's one of those things where it's like, it's not. I don't. To me, this episode wasn't necessarily Star Trek specific. Like, again, this idea has been done a million times, I guess, where they, you know, this group of people have to go on a journey, and maybe one of them is not who they're supposed to be or, you know. [01:15:21] Speaker A: Right. [01:15:21] Speaker B: So. So, like I said, if I was a die hard Trek fan, it probably would have stayed yesteryeartainde. But when I got to this one, I just. I just found it to be so much fun that I was like, this is like. It was like my super friends Star Trek episode. I don't know. Yeah, I just enjoyed it so much. So I was like, you know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna give this to number one, the number one ranking. But I'm surprised. Not even on your top ten. [01:15:42] Speaker A: All right, well, not even on my top ten. Crazy, right? Listen, dude, there's. There's a. There was an episode. I was. I was literally dying. This was the funniest moment of the entire series. There was an episode where Kirk was trying to get the transporter chief to beam somebody back, and they cut to show in the transporter chief, and Kirk just knocks him the fuck out of the way and does it himself. Like, really? He just comes in, completely knocks him out of the frame, and just does it himself. I was fucking dying. I was, like. I was shocked you didn't fucking call me when you watched it. I'm just, like, dying. Tell me why I'm so funny. [01:16:15] Speaker B: I'm surprised that I don't. You're right. I'm surprised I didn't. I'm curious to know where the hell that was, because. [01:16:19] Speaker A: I'm sorry. It was on my list for so long, was in my time. It hung in there for so long that I thought I'd have the chance to talk about it, but I had to bump it out for something else. And then I kind of forgot which episode it was attached to, but it was. It was something early on. It was one of the early episodes that wasn't on my list, and I would have to imagine. I'm sorry. Go ahead. [01:16:36] Speaker B: No, no. I was gonna say, speaking of the humor of it, I noticed. I don't think this in the show, too, but there seemed like there's a lot of times where Spock and bones were, like, kind of like, you know, talking shit at each other. A lot of times, like, making fun of each other, whatever. And, you know, I thought that was kind of fun. [01:16:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's. That's a. They've always been ornery, even on the original series, through the movies, through all of it. Yeah. They've always been sort of, you know, grumpy. They say bones is ornery with spock and spocks. Kind of like, well, you know, deal with it human, you know? Oh, shit, baby. Well, that's. That's great, man. That was awesome. I love you, number one. I love the fact that you. We had the same number ten, same number nine, and a lot of the same ones. That was awesome. [01:17:12] Speaker B: We had yesteryear. We had the turret in incident survivor I the beholder. Wow. [01:17:18] Speaker A: So that's the. At least six we had all the same, at least. [01:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:21] Speaker A: More net, actually. Right. I definitely didn't have the lower lie symbol signal, but, uh. [01:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you know, the g hun jihad. Do you have the. [01:17:33] Speaker A: She had. No, that was close, though. That was close. [01:17:37] Speaker B: And I had the time trap. [01:17:40] Speaker A: There you go. Yeah, we had six. Six. [01:17:43] Speaker B: We had sex. Yeah. Yeah. [01:17:47] Speaker A: That shit again. Will you. [01:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. And like I said, I'll definitely. When I'm anticipating now, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make some notes and. Yeah, in fact, I might do that as I'm going through a show, like, you know, if it's next gen or whatever it is, like you said, just maybe one or two things that maybe why I like it this much or what it is. You know what I mean? The ones. [01:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, the first time you watch some of these, it's a blur, right? Because you watch them fast. You watch three episodes in one night and they kind of run together. Yeah. You know, it's helpful to it now. You know, I've watched a lot of these episodes fucking 20 times, so obviously I'm not gonna forget them, but, yeah, for someone just jumping in, it's hard to. Hard to put myself back in those shoes, you know, but not be great. Hey, ever you want to do it, man, I can't wait to fucking do on. Do the next gen journey with you. That's gonna be so much fun. [01:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:33] Speaker A: And then whatever. Wherever you. Wherever it takes you. Next. Lower Dex. Next gen. Wherever it takes you. Even the animated series again, fuck it. I don't care. As long as you're watching Star Trek, I'm a happy fucking guy, let me tell you. Tell you. [01:18:42] Speaker B: And what was the one you. You suggested me and Alison watch? [01:18:46] Speaker A: I think Discovery would be good. It's very. It's very contemporary, you know? I mean, so, you know, the episodes look fucking fantastic. They spend a fortune on them. Some of the actors, you'd know, you know. Yeah. Discovery and that, like I said, that leads directly into strange new worlds, which is fun. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Wow. All right. Okay. Keep that in mind. [01:19:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:04] Speaker B: I couldn't. Alison have no interest in the animated series, so we'll try again with the next live action thing. [01:19:10] Speaker A: You know, I tried. I showed angel the first couple discovery episodes, and something happened in the second episode that even if she was interested, she wasn't anymore, so. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't want to. I don't want to spoil anything for you, but. Because it is a spoiler for the second season of. Second episode of Discovery, season one. But let me get there. We'll talk about that a little more. [01:19:29] Speaker B: It'll be discovery for me. [01:19:31] Speaker A: Well, we'll discover it. It'll be discovery for you. [01:19:33] Speaker B: That's it. [01:19:34] Speaker A: So. Oh, sorry. That's it. That's it, buddy. That's our animated series list. I love it. This was so much fun. Listen, everybody, check out our videos on Tick tock and Instagram. You can hit us up. St wa rp ten. You could give us an email, let us know what your top ten animated series list is. St warp [email protected]. let us know what's happening, man. We'd love to hear from you. Brian. Last thoughts, please. [01:20:00] Speaker B: Hey, listen, if it's a cartoon, I'm in. You know, other than that, we're gonna have to. It's gonna take a while, but we'll get through some of these bullshit fucking shows. Fuck everyone. Thank you for listening. God blessed.
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